Valuing the invaluable
More signs suggest that gold has reached a turning point. But putting a fair value on the yellow metal is harder than assessing what a business is worth.
Last week, I received a question from a member of my subscription site who wanted to know about recent action in gold and the miners (which have been showing signs of life), and whether higher prices would give me more confidence that we had seen the lows.
In trying to craft an intelligent and useful answer, I spent a lot of time thinking about the gold market and related ideas I hadn't really discussed in the past.
What follows is my response, which I hope illuminates why it is so difficult to be truly emphatic about the price of gold -- as opposed to the value of a business.
I feel strongly that June 30 was most likely the low for gold and the miners. But the problem with gold is that it is just a price. It isn't like a business, where you can track such things as balance sheet items, sales, margins, channel activity, competitors and suppliers to get a very strong feeling that something important has changed or that the time to act in a big way is now -- long or short.
About the closest thing we have to a timely, nearly unequivocal fundamental fact is that gold has been in backwardation for 30 business days. This should never happen -- and has happened only rarely, briefly in 1999 and 2008 -- because it should just get arbitraged away.
The fact that the market hasn't reverted to contango suggests there isn't enough metal around in New York or London (at current prices) to allow that to happen. A potential conclusion is that there is such huge demand versus supply at current prices that the price should not be able to go lower (and stay there).
If that's true, it would argue in favor of the idea that the lows in June were "it" and that this tightness, combined with the short position and prior liquidation, means that prices are poised to rocket higher at some point soon.
A store of guesswork
The problem is that no one knows for sure. I have talked to several people who are close to the metals trading industry (whom I have known for a long time), and they agree with my analysis. But there could be other technical explanations -- mostly having to do with the fact that interest rates are near zero -- that could mean my thesis is wrong.
We will only know for sure as time goes by and new developments occur. All of the above is also why so many people who have opinions about gold base them solely, and often erroneously, on the chart patterns.
As for the miners, it is even harder to be certain about them, because their whole business revolves around the hard-to-determine future gold price.
The bottom line is it takes melding together lots of clues and charts, as well as fundamental guesswork, to be able to have a correct opinion about the gold price. Obviously, being right about the overall trend, bull market or bear market, is a huge help. I did that pretty well in the bull market but totally missed the shift to the bear market.
I can't believe it, but it took me well over a year to consider the possibility that gold had slipped into a bear market. In any case, I think we are now in the process of restarting the bull market, but I don't know for sure and can't know. Until it is a bull market, it will still be a bear market, with the attendant dangers and different risk management (technique) requirements.
It's who you know
In the investment business we all have periods when we are hot and when we are cold. On that subject, one has to realize in one's own investing there are periods where most everything you think and do is correct, and when that is the case it is possible to be more aggressive.
While it is easy to make money when it seems as though you are getting The Wall Street Journal a week early, the bigger trick is not to get killed when it seems you can do nothing right. When that inevitably happens, you must spend more time sitting on your hands while waiting for your view of how the world should work to coincide with that of the masses, aka the market.
In his most recent Gloom Boom & Doom report, Marc Faber discusses his experience at the tail end of the tech bubble and makes an important and related point. He writes: "I had heavily shorted high-tech stocks in 1998 and subsequently I lost a ton of money. This episode is really a dark spot in my life as an investor and investment advisor. It taught me several lessons that I shall never forget. What I think about markets is completely irrelevant. What matters is what other people think about them. Fundamentally, I was right about the coming collapse of the Nasdaq; however, for as long as the majority of other investors believed in the 'New Economy' theme, high-tech and communication stocks continued to appreciate."
Those of us who understood that the dot-com boom was a bubble were all tortured until the bubble burst. That often happens in markets, where you are exactly right about what you think will happen, but the market doesn't agree with you right away, and until it does you have to manage your positions carefully.
It should be worth the weight
To state the obvious, when the bull market in gold resumes, it will be easier to make money being long, though it will still be tricky. Unfortunately, trading and investing in gold is more difficult than just investing in the stock market. It is more like managing a short position.
I wish that wasn't the case, but it is. I also wish the Federal Reserve wasn't so incompetent, so we could just buy stocks or bonds and didn't have to focus on the variables we do. But we must play the hand we are dealt, and we have been dealt one with central banks pursuing insane policies that force us to deal with a warped economic/financial world where the money is "no good."
I hope this discussion helps readers understand the gold market better and, more importantly, is useful when it comes to managing positions.
Those dissing Bill have a right to do so but he's one of the Few Folks that not full of constant BS. In fact, he has discussed many important issues surrounding the financial markets. We should be thankful for his in depth reflections. You certain will be hard pressed to find it elsewhere for FREE.
I don't use anyone's else advice but my own to Buy or Sell. Nor do I think anyone else should so if you do and lose, that becomes a You Problem. It's your responsibility to research and determine what you buy and sell, not Bill's and or anonymous posters. You don't have to be right on the overall direction of the Financial Markets to pick winners. That has never been true. I find Bill's insight to be invaluable. I just pick my own trades, regardless of who's posting or writing an article.
Fleck your the most honest/humble financial blogger on MSN. Your thesis is valid but the fed keeping federal funds rates at zero and QE to control the open bond market we are in uncharted territory now. I personally think that central banks will work overtime in anyway to keep metals contained and paper going. But at some point gold and silver will breakout to new highs because fundamentals always win out in the end.
Are the central banks holding Gold ? according to some of you only fools take a position in Gold. I guess civilianization has had it wrong for 5,000 years ? Think about it !!!
The stock market is (arguably) up b/c investors felt they had nowhere else to go. When the fiat-money house of cards tumbles, gold and silver will go up for the same reason.
One thing I like about Bill is the way he explains his train of thought. Whether you agree with him or not, you have to apprecaite his style.
there are millions of "businesses" bill ... but if you take ALL of the physical gold EVER MINED and brought it all together in one place, the bullion bars would not fill up two olympic size swimming pools. add time and scarce resources to an inflationary/uncertain economic environment and price appreciation will follow, just as day follows night. we have held a constant allocation and are buying the dips in both gold and silver ... miners included.
There is not enough gold or silver for everyone to hold physically and use for currency. There never was and never will be. There is just too many people on earth. Gold's value is indeed in the mind of the masses and today it is just coming up from the bottom where many still have to hold onto it until, hopefully, it comes back to where it was when it was purchased a year or more ago.
Gold is out there; yet there isn't much to make a market with due to too many holding it and waiting..... and by being held it still doesn't come up in price quick enough like most want it to. That means the masses are not willing to pay to own it. They may still be reeling from the freefall it had this past year and don't trust it enough to own it.
The preppers think the value of an object is in its ability to be consumed, not in its rarity. If needed, and although I do have a small position in a gold fund, I'd trade goods for cartridges or food before I'd trade for gold. If you really want to buy something that will become rare, buy clean water.
"Mystification obfuscation and hypnosis may be the tools of modern finance", the same can be said for gold and silver being valuable as "hard currency". They, gold and silver, are no different than diamonds, their value being totally dependent on peoples thinking they are valuable, if and, once that belief is no longer commonly held the value of these metals will become less than the value of currency based on the strength and creditability of the issuing country.
Copyright © 2014 Microsoft. All rights reserved.
Fundamental company data and historical chart data provided by Morningstar Inc. Real-time index quotes and delayed quotes supplied by Morningstar Inc. Quotes delayed by up to 15 minutes, except where indicated otherwise. Fund summary, fund performance and dividend data provided by Morningstar Inc. Analyst recommendations provided by Zacks Investment Research. StockScouter data provided by Verus Analytics. IPO data provided by Hoover's Inc. Index membership data provided by Morningstar Inc.
ABOUT BILL FLECKENSTEIN
This column is a synopsis of Bill Fleckenstein's daily column on his website, FleckensteinCapital.com, which he's been writing on the Internet since 1996. Click here to find Fleckenstein's most recent articles.
[BRIEFING.COM] The stock market ended the Wednesday session on a mixed note with small caps displaying relative strength. The Nasdaq Composite (+0.5%) and Russell 2000 (+0.4%) registered modest gains, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average (-0.2%) and S&P 500 (+0.01%) underperformed.
Despite the mixed finish, the key indices traded higher across the board at the start of the session after the advance reading of second quarter GDP surpassed estimates (4.0% versus Briefing.com ... More
More Market News
|There’s a problem getting this information right now. Please try again later.|
As the devil-may-care bravado of Wall Street marches on, history warns that -- in the end -- there will be the devil to pay.
VIDEO ON MSN MONEY
MUST-SEE ON MSN
- Video: Easy DIY smoked meats at home
A charcuterie master shares his process for cold-smoking meat at home.
- Jetpacks about to go mainstream
- Weird things covered by home insurance
- Bing: 70 percent of adults report 'digital eye strain'