Investors, it's time to face the truth

Our markets have a recent history of missing important warnings. It's no different now as investors deny the obvious and the economy stumbles along.

By Bill_Fleckenstein May 11, 2012 2:41PM

I have been in the investment business for more than 30 years now, so I have grown accustomed to seeing lunacy, naiveté and just plain stupidity more often than one would think possible, given that investing is supposed to be about being smart.

 

It seems extraordinarily obvious to me that the economy is, in essence, broken because of the stock and housing bubbles we have experienced, and that the Federal Reserve is trapped. It also seems clear that at some point we will have a funding crisis (bond yields will leap and/or the dollar will tank) due to excessive government borrowing. (Click here for more on this funding crisis.)

 

However, that's not going to occur until certain attitudes shift, so I can see why this is taking some time to unfold. What I cannot understand is how folks don't recognize the fact that, since the economy has been unable to create jobs for three years now, it isn't going to start magically generating them now.

 

Nor do I understand why there is such denial about inflation. The everyday cost of living has been increasing steadily, and at an increasing rate. Just because house prices have collapsed and certain products that folks buy, especially those heavily laden with technology, are cheaper does not change the fact that we are experiencing inflation, and that the environment is really one of stagflation. It is obvious, as are the consequences.

 

Nevertheless, to a large degree in the investment community, Goldilocks rules.

 

Déjà eww

 

The mindset seemed familiar to me, and about a week ago I was thinking of past moments in time where the obvious was there for all to see but maddeningly few seemed to see it. What popped into my head was the spike in first payment defaults leading up to the housing crisis. When that started occurring, as early as August 2006, it spelled the end of the housing bubble (while at the same time proving it was bubble behavior, since people were missing their first payments).

 

I actually decided to search my subscription site, www.fleckensteincapital.com, for references to "first payment." Lo and behold, one of the headlines that popped up was "Goldilocksters see oil prices as bullish, up or down," which ran on Jan. 11, 2007 (that is, more than a year before Bear Stearns' liquidity problems came to light). Here are some key excerpts:

 

"I wanted to share an email from my insider friend in the subprime arena, whom I've quoted so liberally. It's sort of incongruous to read his thoughts on a day when subprime and other financials were going wild, but this (first payment defaults) is a problem that I guess won't matter until the day it matters -- and then boy is it going to matter.

 

"He wrote: 'We had a loan that was FPD (first-payment default) on a home in So Cal. It is a very nice high-end town that had a section of new homes built, but it was in the low end of town. Normal homes sold for $1 million in value. In this new seven-home development, (homes) sold for $1.3 million to $1.5 million each. The homes you had to drive through to get to this place were worth $400,000 to $500,000. The market topped out, and now most of the seven homes are vacant -- worth no more than $900,000. Thus, all the lenders are sitting on losses of $400,000 to $600,000. This is just one of many that are happening daily.'

 

"'The commentary I am getting from field and legit brokers is that fraud is an out-of-control locomotive. Stated-income loans are now finished for all the unemployed people around. We will quickly see cash-out loans curtailed. This vicious cycle has yet to play out. We are in the second inning of the unwinding.'"

 

Note that I received that email on a day when subprime and other financial stock prices were rallying big time, the market completely oblivious to what lay ahead.

 

Selling yesterday's news

 

Just as folks were late in figuring out the severity of the housing crisis, I think they still tend to be late in facing current realities. Case in point: For most of this week, it was as if markets in Europe and the U.S. had suddenly realized that the government in Greece was in disarray; that we were about to have a socialist running France; and that Spain, Portugal and Italy are each a teetering financial house of cards, even though none of that should be "news," especially to supposedly sophisticated market participants.

 

In the old days, markets tended to discount events (that is, they reflected expected negative outcomes through lower asset prices, or vice versa). If that were still the case, markets should have declined into last weekend's European elections as they anticipated the results, as well as other problems. But what we saw were markets that appeared not to have discounted the seemingly obvious news.

 

I have commented on this phenomenon a number of times over the past 10 years: that only after an important event happens (which was usually pretty obvious) does Mr. Market have a heart attack. I don't really know why that is, although I think a lot of it has to do with how the government's money printing has warped the markets by causing people to expect to be bailed out.

 

You can see a million trees and still not recognize the forest

 

Where our current path is taking us has been predictable for quite some time, and I think that continues to be the case. Unfortunately, we have elected officials who are completely incompetent, if not criminal, and the Fed is even worse. None of that is going to change until change is forced upon us (i.e., them) by a crisis. So while events seem to play out at a glacial pace, where we are headed couldn't be clearer.

 

On the air

 

I participated in a rather timely interview with Eric King this week. Those who are interested can listen to it here.

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It's wonderful to hear from a well-off man who actually knows that working people are facing $4.00 loaves of bread and $5.00/gallon oil. The rest are having James peel the grapes and fan them while lying on a divan.
May 12, 2012 9:39PM
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Haircuts for everyone --- Bulls or Bears --- the Taxman is coming at the end of the year, and summer markets will be crushed by changing political leadership worldwide!  Help me I am surrounded!!!!!!!
May 12, 2012 8:39PM
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For years I've read Bill Fleckenstein's "the sky is falling" articles, ignored them, and made money in the market.  He might be right this time, because as they say, even a broken watch is right two time a day......,

 

May 12, 2012 8:13PM
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" None of that is going to change until change is forced upon us (i.e., them) by a crisis."

Change is not going to occur until the populace at large accepts that it has to and that it will not be painless.  Good luck with that.  We're seeing this right now in Europe.  The leaders there know things cannot continue but any move toward fiscal responsibility invokes protests and rioting.  People are people (and politicians are politicians) everywhere so I would plan on something similar playing out in the US.
May 12, 2012 6:10PM
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To SSG K:

I opine the markets oughta
Keep the sheepies safe from slaughter
Else they'll have  mutton overruns
And no wool to warm their buns.

May 12, 2012 5:51PM
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people that make money today will put it on the federal table tomorrow  it will be no winners in this world economy it just mater of time that the dealers in the federal will take the money from the table the people that manage to have money till today they can run but they cannot hide this is europe asia middle east and other part of the world all getting flat and useless for investment with profit return 
May 12, 2012 5:36PM
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Sicisco, YOU are precisely the problem outlined in the article!

Denying inflation because the iPAD is still the same price, yet food and fuel have rocketed upward.  In 08' the price at the pump was at $4 a gallon, but the price per barrel was over $175.  Today the price at the pump is near $4 yet the price per barrel is BELOW $100!  

And We WERE creating near 200,000 jobs per month, (DOWN to below 150,000 currently), yet we are LOSING over 300,000 jobs each month giving us at least 100,000 job LOSES each month!

The only thing "solid" is the medias willingness to propagandize the usefulidiots!

May 12, 2012 5:33PM
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Fleckenstein is and has always been a believer in the persistent bear market, it's also why he has been pushing physical gold and gold mining company as sound investments. Well guess what, if you had listened to this guy's advice in the last 3 years, you would have lost a whole heap of money. And as for gold? It's value becomes bloated due to speculation, not real value, just like oil and other commodities. It should be noted that Fleckenstein himself is a gold speculator, and that gold prices usually surge when US dollar falls or the market tanks. Considering how much this guy has his own money invested in gold, I'd say there's significant conflict of interest in all this bearish prediction. After all, if the market tanks like he's been predicting, he makes money, while most people will lose money. So don't listen to this crap, Fleckenstein is trying to force a bear market in order to make money for himself.
May 12, 2012 5:25PM
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I am reading alot of denial and confusion down the page. Also the blame game appears to have started here because the author didnt have answers you all seek.

   Its an easy answer but many parts. Build America. support america. I was reading an article about how it was so smart to go and retire in another country because of a bit of cheaper products. They did skirt just exactly what was acceptable in medical technology not leaning towards some countries that were 50 years behind us in technology. Still did you know that many people will never consider their health and they will move right into those countries collecting american money and spending it like it was water there.

   As hard as it is to understand for some it is really not difficult when you have huge blogs on this idealism for both retired and unretired.

In the end the property here will be king.

  Also I would address another idealism. I am well over 50 and a DIY guy. I go by the home repair places alot. I have many projects going on. Just an observation that probably occurs in more than one person in line at the checkout. I am standing behind this guy who is probably at least three years younger than me. He is a bit shaped like a bell and you can see his hands have never done manual labor but I am thinking what the heck maybe the six gallons of paint he is buying will put him back in shape because he will most likely die right after his retirement if he doesnt start now. The wait was definitley gained long term sitting on his butt lol.

   Anyway I make a freindly comment  with positive tones about him getting in there and getting it done. He never turned around and looked at me until he was leaving but his comment was that of such a spoiled individual I was amused. He first boasted on how he had graduated from that kind of work many years ago like it was embarrassing. Then he stated he was about to retire presumably before the legal age because he was not much over 50 if  he was even 50. I let him off the hook on the graduating from that kind of work many years back by not commenting that it was obvious from his appearance. He did finally look around at me on the way out of the store. It was also obvious to me that he  had a county government job or something of this nature working in an office. He is a victim but also an example of what is wrong here to some degree. I do salute him for being involved in keeping his property up by hiring someone to paint it however I am sorry for him that he wont be spending his retirement after he passes for assuming that a human was meant to do nothing for physical health "laziness". He probably thinks his appearance is appealing. Denial like ignorance apparently is bliss.

   Maybe he was a stock broker :)

end my saturday rant. My dad used to say useless as tits on a bull . My dad had a masters degree and successfully carried on two different careers one of which was working at NASA in the 60's. He did this kind of embarrassing work too.

May 12, 2012 5:23PM
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Wugo, when do you give up waiting for wool and butcher the sheep?
May 12, 2012 5:21PM
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These articles are beginning to increase in number. I wonder how many will heed these professionals advice. 

My money is in very few, and then they will act surprised when the deck of cards collapses. I'm just glad I will be watching from the sidelines instead of trapped underneath ;).

May 12, 2012 5:15PM
May 12, 2012 4:59PM
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Brokers must have patience here.

As they well know, it takes a year

To grow wool that's long enough

For shearing.

May 12, 2012 4:06PM
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 Watching our economic system crumble is like watching an alcoholic hit bottom before they change.  The problem is see even if we hit bottom and experience a currency devaluation or hyperinflation I don't see our government making any real reforms.  In the event of another crisis I simply see a "blame game" being played out by both parties to maintain or gain power.  This begs the question is how is " the little guy " going survive for many years to come? Especially after losing their jobs, homes and savings in the 2008 crisis?  I have read enough how we got here.  I want to know what options are left at this point for the average American.  
May 12, 2012 3:03PM
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Sue, before you rave on whole life policies, check into the fees that will be sucked out of it when you cash it in. You will not like it. My Mom had one for a long time and when she cashed it in she was in shock and very angry at the fees that come out of it. Enough so that my mild mannered mom called up the agent that sold it to her and lit him up.
May 12, 2012 2:50PM
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someone is finaly showing some brains!!!!!!  things are not as good as others write!!!!  time to pay attention to detail. still would like to know where the 200,000 jobs are ?? in what part of the world ??  what you see mainly is walmart an mcdonalds etc: everyone wants a job but with a liveable wage to raise a FAMILY ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Congress get off your well padded butts an work for the citizens who employ you OR GET OUT OF DODGE. this is for both parties ,TAKE HEED ELECTION TIME IS COMMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 12, 2012 1:27PM
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Money is an illusion .. and that some how it can be accumulated and concentrated into the hands of a few, with broad public benefit, is the lunacy, naivete and just plain stupidity that is served up to the American people.   Government's can print money until the forest runs out of trees, but if the money isn't circulating in the general economy, it has little value. 

 

It is the free flow of goods and services that reach the maximum number of citizens, across income levels, derived from work and exchange of items of value that is the true measure of a Nation's wealth.  Barter and Trade have been around longer than Money .. and in some corners of America it seems to be working just fine for the basics.

May 12, 2012 12:48PM
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Sicisco - Your clearly delusional.  Inflation may be tame on Rodeo Drive but not in the real world. have you shopped for groceries or filled your car lately? Get a grip man, the Fed can only force rates down for so long while it continues to spend insane amounts of money to prop up the stock bubble.  Several hundred thousand new UIB apps every week is NOT a "recovering" economy.  Fake stimulus jobs are NOT real jobs. Most of the "ew" jpobs created are service sector (low paying) jobs - that does NOT reflect a recovery. It simply indicates an economy running on Fed fumes. 
May 12, 2012 12:48PM
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Sicisco - Your clearly delusional.  Inflation may be tame on Rodeo Drive but not in the real world. have you shopped for groceries or filled your car lately? Get a grip man, the Fed can only force rates down for so long while it continues to spend insane amounts of money to prop up the stock bubble.  Several hundred thousand new UIB apps every week is NOT a "recovering" economy.  Fake stimulus jobs are NOT real jobs. Most of the "new" jobs created are service sector (low paying) jobs - that does NOT reflect a recovery. It simply indicates an economy running on Fed fumes. 
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