The best colleges in America

Last year's winner moves down a notch, overtaken by another former No. 1, as Forbes releases its annual list of the best of the best colleges.

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Aug 2, 2012 1:31PM
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Okay, here's the deal.  I'm a teacher.  My wife's a teacher.  We BELIEVE IN EDUCATION!  But, dear Lord, look at these costs!  The featured schools cost (on average) about $55,000 a year.  That's 220 GRAND over 4 years.  If a person (or a family) could put 220-freakin'-thousand dollars in an investment for the kid, here are the results:  Figure a 22-year-old with $220,000 in the pot.  Earning 5.5% per year, for the next 43 years - to age 65 - the kid would have over $2,300,000 !   If you could average 6%, the bonanza grows to almost $2.9 million!   Wow.  Just food for thought
Aug 2, 2012 10:38AM
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Hey anyone notice that NBC News dropped the Chick-fil-A story from it's front page after the numbers came out. Oh they aren't Socialist here at NBC News...Ha Ha.
Aug 2, 2012 12:58PM
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Let me clarify a few things here. My son just graduated this May from the University of Pennsylvania with an Engineering degree.One of the Ivy Leagues that is NOT mentioned here. Which I don't understand why. In any event, we are from the east coat. We are by NO means snobbing or rich. If anything we are in the low income category. I think it is a misconception that everyone that goes to these colleges are Rich and Snobbing. UPenn meets 100% need basis, which means they pretty much offered my son an education at almost no cost to us. They also do not offer loans, which means my son graduated debt free, everything paid for no money owed oh yeah and BTW he got a much higher SAT score then 1450. However with all that said and done he has still not found a job. But at least he has a nice resume and is looking, hopefully things will change for the better soon.
Aug 2, 2012 7:19AM
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Garbage in, garbage out. Those Elitist schools have been pumping out garbage for years. We're not in the mess we are in from teaching people how to learn so they can earn their way through exposure and experience, we teach them how to take shortcuts and cheat. A reminder that Wall Street has failed us and everyone working in it came from one of these fool schools.
Aug 2, 2012 9:39AM
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Does it matter? Education is free if you are Illegal. So is a buisness.
Aug 2, 2012 3:15AM
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Usual eastern bias, reflecting the typical views of snobs that have rarely crossed the Mississippi.  There are lots of universities with a yearly tuition of 10K that have honor's programs that can compete with the most prestigious (in name) schools.  Check out the Barrett Honor's college, for example, at Arizona State University.  My only word of advice is to check out the productivity of faculty members at each school, in terms of publications and research activity, and whether they also teach undergraduate programs.  The shift from the east to the west coast, as well as inbetween, has been in progress for the last 40 years.  And that will continue. 
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Gimmie a friggin break!  Average tuition of these colleges is $39K to $45K a year!?!?  I don't care how good your article thinks these colleges are - that's just plain highway robbery!  I got my MA at a private little seminary in MO and feel like I got a world class educationw ith experience and one on one attention, and without the snobby uppity attitude...and all 3 years for the cost of just one year at one of your colleges on your top 10 list!! Sounds like youa re advertising for the gross national debt more than accessible education.
Aug 2, 2012 9:41AM
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Not sure WHAT schools are RATED best .................. show us just one with a 50% or greater graduation %!

Ok, how about 40%........ or even 35%.......... yet a 61-80% financial aid rate ............... given money that equates to used toilet paper in terms of intelligent national investment, and that doesn't include the University subsidies!!!!
Aug 2, 2012 1:24PM
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Before I even viewed the list, when I saw it was composed by Forbes, I knew it would be absurd.

I've seen their rankings of Best Place to Live in the past and have lived in or nearby some of their top 10 cities and those lists were equally absurd.

No UPenn?  No Brown?  Yale and Harvard not in the top three?  Where is MIT?  Or Northwestern?

I am not an elitist.  I am a Gator, product of a good, tough school -for journalism, anyway - but I don't need a degree in rocket science to notice at which schools our leaders are educated.  If I have a kid, I will try to get them into one of the following: Yale, Harvard, Brown, Columbia, UPenn, Dartmouth, Berkley, Northwestern or U. of Chi. 
Aug 2, 2012 7:26PM
Aug 6, 2012 5:47AM
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I went to a State College and was able to secure an internship while in college.  Graduated with slightly over $6K in student loans and was able to secure a job.  Working while in high school and college helped me gain experience that helped me gain full-time employment after graduating.  I now have a job that I love most days, earn enough and not worried about paying down the debt.
Aug 2, 2012 3:51AM
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I didn't bother to read this article - it's the same old tired superiority ranking of primarily east coast money schools. Was it Princeton Review again, always picking Princeton as number one or two?
Columbia may have a nice location and campus, but it is so left of center it is off the charts. Home of the self-proclaimed intellectual elite who don't really believe in freedom of speech if it disagrees with their liberal agenda. Put a sock in it.
Aug 28, 2012 10:53PM
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All colleges are good as long as in you put in your part of it, are these good yes along with many others, are they cheap ? No they are not along with many others as well. I have a law student and a med student , they as well as mom and dad picked a path that left little debt after the first four years of college since law and med school would mean big loans. Cost for the two kids ? 42 grand a year each which is really outrageous but with 250 dollars for a book what could you expect.. We as a nation give financial assistance to country's that hate us and turn on our servicemen with the very weapon we trained them on. Charity begins at home so lets cut these ingrates off, let them earn their freedom with their blood so they learn to appreciate it and let us educate our children at a reasonable cost so they can live the long lost American dream.         
Aug 2, 2012 12:56PM
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Happy to know what school cost the most doesn't come into your decision.

Aug 2, 2012 10:32AM
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What elitest snobbery!  The same overpriced textbooks are used by poorly educated professors in virtually every University/College in the USA. For undergraduates the body of knowledge taught is, with few exceptions, the same as it was 40 years ago. Most of the exceptions are vocational specific stuff that don't really belong in a University/Colege. One must really question the metrics used in these studies.
Aug 28, 2012 11:51PM
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I think this list is just another example of how money begets money. Those parents fortunate enough to have the kind of money it takes to attend these schools usually had parents just as fortunate. Myself however wasn't that fortunate, my father got his BS at the school of hard work and his MS at the school of hard knocks. So this meant that I got to attend a state university to obtain my degree (Ball State, Muncie IN) with a BS in Business Management and a minor in Physiology. I have done pretty well for my family and myself, but not well enough to send my daughter to a Yale or a Harvard or any private school for that matter. She even applied to Notre Dame and was turned down, did I mention she scored a 33 on the ACT and a 1594 combined SAT. She was also class valedictorian graduating with a weighted GPA of 4.6. She was however offered direct admission to the Kelly School of Business with a full ride scholarship at Indiana University Bloomington. She will graduate next May with a BS in entrepanurship, a BS in music, and a minor in Non profit Business Management. And this will all be paid for, no student debt, just 4 years of experiencing what I believe to be the best business school in the country. So you can have your list Forbes, just watch your back, my daughter may own you one day. 
Aug 2, 2012 7:32PM
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They all practice racism with 'affirmative action' for selected minorities.  Let's hope the U.S. Supreme Court finally rules these racist practices illegal next year!
Aug 29, 2012 11:45AM
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Several Problems with this and the catagories...Making this a bogus ranking

1. Two types of peopel generally get into the Private-Elite universities....those who have very little money and those who have a great deal.

2. ALumni pay and prominece....well if you go to the top Universities in the US you should be hired at a hire pay. and you generally will do better in life....

3. Prestigious Scholarships and fellowships, look at who gets those scholarships, mostly those who got to attend those TOP Universities...and who makes those awards, mostly those who went to the TOP universities...

I have had three kids who have got great ACT scores, 33,34,33 They all applied to the TOP schools and none of them were admitted...they all had at least 18 hours of College credit or AP classes going in to their senior year. Had the top grades in their classes.

The reason is simple

1. not a minority

2. not from one of the COASTs(Nebraska)

3. Not from a prominate family

4. My wife and I were just average people making a middle class income.

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Aug 29, 2012 1:04AM
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Why is everyone arguing about liberals vs. conservatives? the left-right paradigm is false and you have all bought into it. What has really changed in this country in the last few decades? Economically America has been in decline since the 1960s, and a mirage of success was maintained through Wall Street's gamblers and thieves. Ask yourself: why is there always money to bailout banks that act above the law, and why is there always money to wage illegal wars that Congress has not even declared? War has not been declared since WW2 but look at how many quagmires we have become involved in.  And why are billions wasted each year on a drug war that cannot be won? Like banks, defense contractors, prisons, etc. universities are a business with profit as the top priority.  Liberal/Conservative, Democrat/Republican...it matters not because in the end its the same s**t from one administration to the next:  Price of your life is going up, it aint inflation.
Aug 2, 2012 3:47AM
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Princeton, Yale, Harvard and Stanford?  What genius wrote this article?  Interestingly, you and I aren't allowed to go to these schools - not because they're $37,000k a year BUT because if we actually were admitted we would "do the work" just like George W. Bush et al, and earn degrees and join "the club" of people who are the ones in command.
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