2/9/2011 4:28 PM ET|
Free credit scores for all? Not so fast
A decidedly unscientific survey of my Facebook fans showed that some who applied for loans and cards recently received scores, while others received the notice.
Ulzheimer says he thinks lenders are "trying to avoid some awkward phone calls," noting that a general letter directing you to your credit report is far less likely to trigger a reaction than a letter disclosing your actual score and telling you that you didn't quite measure up to others.
People who get their scores "are going to pick up the phone and call the bank," Ulzheimer said. "They're not going to pick up the phone and call FICO ... and banks want to avoid that conversation as long as possible."
Broader disclosure on the way
Lenders' ability to dodge those calls will end July 21, when a second law, called the Fair Access to Credit Scores Act, passed last year, kicks in and supersedes the current law's notices.
This law is much broader, and requires that lenders, insurers and others that use scores to evaluate you must disclose those scores to you if you're denied or given less than the best available deal. You'll get the scores if you:
- Are turned down for credit, insurance or a rental property.
- Have to pay more for credit or insurance than others.
- Have to put down a bigger deposit for utilities, cell phone service or a rental property than others.
- Are required to get a co-signer to qualify.
This is really going to crack open the vault. In addition to seeing the classic FICO scores that mortgage lenders traditionally use, Ulzheimer predicts people are going to start seeing "flavors of FICO we haven't seen anywhere before," such as those tweaked for auto or credit-card lenders. We'll also start seeing the different scores used by insurers, such as LexisNexis' Attract score.
The disclosure should lay waste to the credit bureaus' claims that "a score is a score" and that it doesn't really matter which one you see, when the vast majority of scores that loan applicants see will be FICO scores. And it should raise more awareness, and discussion, of how credit is used in insurance decisions.
Ulzheimer predicts "welcome confusion" as people start seeing all these different scores. He says he thinks, as I do, that this will provoke some much-needed discussion -- among individuals, lawmakers and regulators -- about what goes into these scores and how important they are. I'm hoping it will also spur some action so that the rest of us get equal access to these scores.
Liz Weston is the Web's most-read personal-finance writer. She is the author of several books, most recently "The 10 Commandments of Money: Survive and Thrive in the New Economy" (find it on Bing). Weston's award-winning columns appear every Monday and Thursday, exclusively on MSN Money. Join the conversation and send in your financial questions on Liz Weston's Facebook fan page.
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Since I continually get top-of-the-line credit card, etc. invitations with a cover letter that says "you earned it" and for my last car loan it took the company's computer 15 seconds to decide I got their best rate, I've never bothered to ask for mine.
Well at this time my score is 731 - I get my scores once a year and get all three of them -
i do not get many offers for credit cards do not know why? The last one I got was for Citi Bank and said come join us - so I did sign up - but I never got a card! - I asked why via a phone call to Citi and was told you do not meet our needs at this time? I said what?
Take note I have a loan with them for a HOUSE Citi Morg - never been late with any payments on credit cards or house payment or truck payment - and as i said a score of 731 - I asked again why again and then was told we will send you a letter saying WHY!
Two weeks later i get a form letter saying sorry you do not meet our goal to have a Citi Card!
Now get this the next month I get a Citi card offer in the U S Mail asking me to join and all I have to do it sign the letter and return it to Citi or call and give them the code number on said letter! Well i did this via the phone and again I was told in 30 sec or less sorry you do not meet our goal to have a Citi card!
I to this day do not know WHY they turn me down - I really do not wont the card i was doing it to show how it's not that easy to get a card even with A+ credit -
I checked with my credit Union on WHY I am being turned down for credit with Citi - They ran a credit report while I was there and said very good report and nothing neg on said reports!
at that time the score was 731 also and said there is NO reason to turn me down for credit of any kind!
So even with good credit you get turned down and NO it's not in come I bring in over $3,800 a month and only use to pay my bills $1,200 and the rest is for savings and yes food......
My savings is over $39,000.00 so even I get turned down.........
Seeing your LexisNexis and FICO for Car Loans scores is just going to add confusion. It's like comparing your SAT score to your buddy's Act score - sometimes they don't even use the same scale.
I do agree, though, that this whole business of basing decisions about you on information you can't correct or even see, is pretty crazy. I'm glad we're moving forward as a society.
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