Updated: 9/17/2010 9:00 AM ET|
5 ways to kill your credit scores
The curtain has parted, albeit slightly, on the mystery of how your credit rating is calculated. Find out what these common credit problems can do to your standing.
One of the questions I'm asked most often about credit scores is exactly how much certain actions affect people's scores.
Until now, the best I could do was say, "It depends." That's because the company that created the leading credit score, the FICO, has been wary about releasing specifics.
Fortunately, that just changed. At my request and for the first time, the company (also known as FICO) has released details about how specific actions, from maxing out a credit card to filing for bankruptcy, can affect people with different credit scores.
I asked the company to compute the results of those actions for two examples: a person with a 780 score, which is an excellent score on the 300-to-850 FICO scale, and someone with a 680 score. The results:
|Effect on a 680 score||Effect on a 780 score|
|Maxed-out card||-10 to -30||-25 to -45|
|30-day late payment||-60 to -80||-90 to -110|
|Debt settlement||-45 to -65||-105 to -125|
|Foreclosure||-85 to -105||-140 to -160|
|Bankruptcy||-130 to -150||-220 to -240|
The results are given in a range because FICO is still a little nervous about revealing too much about its proprietary scoring. But the range is fairly tight, and we can clearly see the disparate impacts of the different actions.
A guide, not a guarantee
Before we go further, I have to make this clear: Your mileage may vary.
People with the same credit score can have very different credit profiles: more or fewer accounts, a different mix of accounts, a longer or shorter credit history, use of more or less of their available credit, etc.
Because of those differences, the same action -- maxing out a card, say -- can have different effects on people with the same score, depending on the details of their individual credit profiles.
For the sake of this exercise, FICO assumed both people had several active major credit cards as well as a mortgage, a car loan and student loans.
The person with the 780 score:
- Has at least 10 credit accounts in total and a 15-year credit history.
- Uses 15% to 25% of her credit card limits.
- Has no late payments on her credit reports.
- Has no collection accounts or other major negatives.
- The person with the 680 score:
- Has six credit accounts and an eight-year credit history.
- Uses 40% to 50% of her credit card limits.
- Was 90 days late on an account two years ago.
- Was 30 days late on another account one year ago.
Here's what you need to know about each action and the effect it had:
Maxing out a credit card
Using 100% of your limit on any credit card puts you at risk of over-limit fees. It also takes a bite out of your credit score.
Our person with the 680 score might lose 10 to 30 points from this one action, while the 780 scorer could shed 25 to 45 points.
The difference points up an important fact: The higher your score, the more points you tend to lose from "bad" actions. That's because the scoring formula is sensitive to any sign you're getting in over your head. Maxing out a credit card is considered one of those signs.
You also should know that it typically doesn't matter to the formula if you carry a balance or pay off that maxed-out card as soon as you get your statement. What's usually reported to the credit bureaus is the balance on your last statement. Even if you pay the debt in full before the due date, the maxed-out card will hurt your score.
Skipping a payment
Mailing a payment a few days late normally won't hurt your score, although you may incur late fees and trigger higher interest rates. The big hurt comes when you miss a payment cycle entirely.
A 30-day-late report would shave 60 to 80 points from our lower-scoring person and 90 to 110 points from our higher scorer. In other words, one lapse of attention could plunge the 680-scorer into subprime credit territory, and our 780-scorer could find credit much harder to get and more expensive.
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Didnt you all know who is behind this article? The banks....they want you to be concerned about your fico score, so they can continue to keep you borrowing.
"you should at least explore the other possibilities: forbearance, credit counseling or even debt settlement. " Why are they saying this? They dont want you to file BK....they want you to pay them, if only a percentage is better than nothing.
Do your self a favor....File BK...clear your debt...don't get into debt again. And be FREE of these greedy bums for good. CASH TALKS......FICO WALKS
DEBT is DEBT. I paid off my cars, have five years left on my house, buy nothing retail if can help it, research best prices, and pay for everything in CASH. If I want a new toy, I save up, find the best price, negotiate a lower price if I can. I control my finances, not the other way around. I have more than enough money to pay my bills and have a comfortable amount saved for emergency. I have no outstanding bills to anybody, but according to FICO, I have a credit score of 650 because I HAVE NO DEBT. I HAVE NO CREDIT CARDS, and have not had any for seven years. I'm still alive and doing quite well for myself and my family. DON"T Fall for the Lie....DEBT is BAD. There is no such thing as GOOD DEBT with credit cards or any debt product. PAY cash where you can...you'll find that it's not how much you make , it's how much you keep.don't give away your money to DEBT
My wife and I have no bills, just mortgage payments that are too high. One was just re-re-modified. Chase bank is crooked like Wells Fargo and Wachovia. Wells kept Wachovia so they could use them to jerk around with people. I fear for the safety of the people that can be gotten hold of by unhappy consumers. The personnel at the banks have no idea what's going on. I am going to sue Wachovia, Wells in a month or so and feel we can win. Fraud, taking advantage of the elderly and using false information. FICO and the credit companies, like Experian, transwhatever and the last one are not honest and because I put their backs to the wall with honest ammunition, one of the gave me NO credit at all. That is probably as bad as having bad credit. Most of these banks are corrupt and crooked just like your president and the government.
Concerned AMERICAN, L. Velasco
Our federal government should be policing the credit bureau's. Legally they should be sued for mis-information....can you say defamation of character? Yep, when is the fed going to get involved and help protect our credit scores and borrowing ability. Didn't we bail the banks out, you and I? And now they make it tough for certain people to get home loans. They got us and themselves into the mess.
Stand up America, why can't the middle class be treated fairly? Screw the banks, join a credit union!
So, it appears to me that a high credit score is tied to having considerable charges on multiple credit cards. It seems to me too! the system has been designed (likely by banks and credit card companies and perhaps the merchants), to entice people to spend, spend, spend , until card holders realize that, in pursuit of high credit scores, they have been digging their own financial grave. By then, Crony Capitalists have set their hooks, and debtors are stuck with very, very high, interest rates. Have an accident, or lose a job, and one could find themselves on a fast track to bankruptcy, and a ruined life.
Gees, Dave Ramsey is right; one's CREDIT SCORE is really one's DEBT SCORE. So, in the future when you hear someone bragging about their Credit Score, extend your condolences, for such people have put their futures and possibly, the futures of their family members, at risk. It is likely too, that many of these people have a negative net worth, and really own nothing! but the debt that has piled up in an attempt to impress their neighbors, co-workers, and friends. Tis' a shame!.
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