8/2/2011 4:17 PM ET|
Your best friends' bank: You
Do you always pick up the tab? Are you the go-to person for short-term loans? And are you tired of doing both? Here's how to keep finances from fouling friendships.
How should money work among friends?
Maybe you resist letting anyone else pick up the check. Or maybe you and pals parse every expense down to the penny.
The first habit leaves you open to exploitation. The second is just annoying if a nice evening out culminates in "Your appetizer cost 50 cents more than mine . . ."
Treats and short-term loans can be generous expressions of friendship. It's fine if you can afford it and if you're pretty sure your pals will reciprocate or pay you back. But suppose you find yourself:
- Holding the business end of the tab much too often.
- Lending cash to a needy friend whose "need" turns out to be a night on the town.
- Agreeing to split the check evenly when it means you pay $50 for your pasta and iced tea.
- Covering your roomie's share of the utilities, then waiting weeks for repayment.
Fortunately, the solution is close at hand. Right behind you, in fact, running from your neck all the way down to your coccyx. It's called a spine.
A little higher up is your brain, the organ that lets you decide what you will and won't do -- and that lets you discuss such issues before there's a problem.
Let's talk money
Actually, let's not. It's generally a taboo subject in the United States. The only thing you need to know about money is that you should have lots of it -- or that you should at least look as though you have it.
"The shame of indicating that you might not have enough money is hard to tolerate. So we make choices that we regret later," says psychotherapist Kate Levinson, the author of "Emotional Currency: A Woman's Guide to Building a Healthy Relationship With Money."
A woman she knows served on the board of a nonprofit. After meetings, board members often went out to eat. Too embarrassed to say she was broke, Debra went along -- and because this was a crowd that routinely split the check, these evenings weren't cheap.
Ever been in this situation? You smile, you put in your share and later, at home, you kick yourself for having overspent, again.
Sticking to your budget
Try asking for a separate check upfront. Or say, "I'm not in a position to split the cost evenly, so I'll pay for my share plus tax and tip." That's not a crime, and besides, "you're probably not the only one at the table who feels that way," Levinson says.
You might be twitted about being a tightwad. Do not cave. State matter-of-factly that you need to stick to your budget.
That's not to say that cheapskates aren't out there. Ted Hunter used to go to lunch with co-workers a couple of times a week. They quit inviting one guy because he'd toss in just enough to cover what he ate but nothing for the tax or tip.
Don't do that, and don't let your friends do it to you either.
"Mooching is a character flaw. They are giving you the message that they don't care about your feelings and that their needs are more important than yours," says Hunter, the author of "Money Smart: How to Spend, Save, Eliminate Debt, and Achieve Financial Freedom."
Giving versus receiving
Plenty of us find treats really tricky. We don't want to burden our friends. But it might be a slap in the face to the would-be giver to say something like "I refuse to accept your kindness."
My best pal has hosted me on numerous occasions, sometimes for as long as two months at a clip. She hasn't taken a dime for increased utility costs, and she has encouraged me to raid her cupboards. (I don't, by the way.) When we go out for lunch, there's a "death match" over the bill. She actually tried to pay me for house-sitting when she had to be away for a week.
I understand how she feels, since I want my own guests to feel welcome. But I can't shake the feeling that I'm a great big mooch. So I do household chores when she's not looking and mow the lawn or shovel snow. I also use my extreme-couponing skills to purchase her favorite treats. (Hunter calls these "gotcha" gifts: "What are they gonna do, throw it out?")
Yet I still feel beholden. That's normal, Levinson says: "For some of us, there's discomfort in receiving."
The trick is to find balance. Friends care for each other out of love, so learning to accept gifts graciously is one way to acknowledge and return that love.
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At my last job I had one of those friends/co-workers. She always had boxes of QVC and expensive taste but when it was time for lunch...it was a different story. I ordered Chinese twice w/ her and when she only gave me $8 for her $7.99 meal I was done. No taxes and no tip? After that whenever they asked I said no. I brought leftovers from home most of the time. If I wanted to buy I would just go by myself.
Oh, not just grammAR. It is English not english.
My husband and I make a good bit more money than any of our friends but in trying to pay off our house as early as possible we live fairly frugally. We find that having everyone over to our house where we provide most of the snacks(hot and cold) is a good way to treat everyone and not spend a lot. They, in turn, bring what they want to drink and any additional food (esp dessert) they want but none is required. We always pick up the tab if we ask them out but if they ask we go dutch unless they really make a fuss about picking up the tab
In the end its not about the money, its about good friends and the joy they bring. If we put out a little more money, it's totally worth it!
BUT we never lend money..and if some day we did, it would be with clear rules and goals
I'm old enough to have "weeded" out all the moochers in my life. The friends that I do have now, I can say, "I'm broke." You would be amazed at how many people say they are too. I often get people that are relieved when I'm honest.
My hubs has an Uncle that is horribly cheap. He abuses everyone that he can to save a penny. On my husbands birthday, his uncle's car broke down. So hubs spent hours in the cold, fixing it in a bar parking lot. We had dinner waiting, presents and everything else for hubs but that had to wait. His uncle bought him a $1 beer once it was fixed and said that was all he was getting as payment. That same uncle also, came to our house for Thanksgiving. Brought a cheap $5 pie and acted as if we were in debt to him. And then bossed me around to "serve him" all night. Then broke our phone and said, "oh well" and left. Now you can see why we have weeded people out!
I think how you treat people who loan you money makes a difference too.
For example, I have one friend I loaned money to who (as also mentioned in this article) does little things for me - like offer to drive my kids places where she might be going with her kids too or is quick to offer her car if my breaks down. She has not paid me back, but I don't mind as she pays me back little by little in favors and help. In my mind, she is repaying, even though money does not come in. I could not care less if she never repays actual money to me. She is paying in trade as far as I am concerned.
Another (former) friend on the other hand, borrowed money, then acted like I was being overbearing money shark is I asked for a favor (even small ones that had nothing to do with the loan). In fact, she once asked me to dinner with she and her husband (where they racked up a $50 tab) and then did not offer to pick up my $8 tab. It is small, it is petty, but that $8 would have gone a long way to tell me that while she did not exactly have the money to pay me back, she appreciated that I had done that for her. I had loaned her literally $1000s and not only was she not paying me back, but acted like it was her right to be "loaned" that money and she owed nothing back as long as she had other things she wanted to buy.
How you treat people who were kind enough to loan you money intrest free makes a huge difference in how quick they want to be paid back or if they even want to be paid back. If a friend needs money, no problem. I also get that it can be hard to pay someone back. But if you try to give back in other ways, you may find your loan forgiven.
I have two good friends. One makes good money but has huge debt. (yes we talk about these things) The other friend is as poor as I am so she understands the not being able to indulge. My friend who makes a fair amount of money consistantly pays for my meals. I offer to pay for my portion but she typically picks up the tab. I pay the tip then. Once in a very blue moon I pay for hers. I feel incrediablly guilty when she pays for my share. I want to spend time with my friend but would rather do something I can afford. She states she does not mind as she likes to go out to eat. Needless to say money is a touchy situation and in all cases you should be upfront about it as it can cost you a friendship if not.
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