3/3/2011 12:17 PM ET|
When insurers cry 'suicide'
By twisting the facts of an accident, they can blame the victim and avoid having to pay up. And even if the trick finally fails, it can still be profitable.
Jane Pierce spent nine years struggling alongside her husband, Todd, as he fought cancer in his sinus cavity. The treatments were working. Then, in July 2009, Todd died in a fiery car crash. He was 46. That was the beginning of a whole new battle for Jane, this time with Todd's life insurance company, MetLife.
A state medical examiner and a sheriff in Rosebud County, Mont., concluded that Pierce's death was an accident, caused when he lost control of his silver GMC pickup after passing a car on a two-lane road.
Their findings meant Jane Pierce was eligible to collect $224,000 on the accidental death insurance policy that Todd had through his employer, power producer PPL Corp. MetLife, however, refused to pay. The nation's largest life insurer told Pierce on Dec. 8, 2009, that her husband had killed himself. The policy didn't cover suicide, the insurer said, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its April issue.
"How dare they suggest such a thing," says Pierce, 44, a physician's assistant in Colstrip, a Montana mining and power production city of 2,346 people.
She says she's insulted that the man who courageously battled his disease for a decade was accused by an insurance company of abandoning his wife and two sons -- one a Marine, the other a National Guardsman -- and giving up on his fight to live.
Widow goes to court
Pierce argued with MetLife for months. She supplied the insurer with the autopsy report, medical records and a letter from the medical examiner saying the death was accidental. MetLife still said no. Finally, in May 2010, she sued.
In July, a year after Todd Pierce's death, MetLife settled and paid Jane Pierce the full $224,000 due on the policy. The New York-based insurer, as part of the agreement, denied wrongdoing and paid her no interest or penalties for the year during which it held her money.
Life insurers have found myriad ways to delay and deny paying death benefits to families, civil court cases across the United States show. Since 2008, federal judges have concluded that some insurers cheated survivors by twisting facts, fabricating excuses and ignoring autopsy findings in withholding death benefits.
Insurers can make erroneous arguments almost with impunity when it comes to the 112.8 million life and accidental death policies provided by companies and associations to their employees and members. That's because of loopholes in a federal law intended to protect worker benefits.
Under that law -- the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, or ERISA -- insurers can win even when they lose in court because they can keep and invest survivors' money while cases are pending.
Congress enacted ERISA in 1974, after bankruptcies and union scandals caused thousands of employees to lose benefits. The law requires employers to disclose insurance and pension plan finances, and it holds company and union officials personally accountable for maintaining sufficient funding.
In order to achieve ERISA's goals, federal courts have ruled that employees must surrender their rights to jury trials and compensatory and punitive damages if they sue an insurer for wrongfully denying coverage. Judges have reasoned that the measure encourages companies and insurers to continue providing benefits.
ERISA puts these issues under federal jurisdiction, so state regulators sometimes say they can't help consumers.
Delaying tactics benefit insurers
"The most important federal insurance regulation of the past generation is ERISA," says Tom Baker, deputy dean of the University of Pennsylvania Law School in Philadelphia. "If ever a law backfired for the public, ERISA is the perfect example."
Life insurers do pay most claims in full -- more than 99 percent of the time, according to data from the American Council of Life Insurers, a Washington-based trade group. But nobody keeps track of how often companies delay making those payments or how often they use spurious reasons.
As of 2009, the latest year for which figures are available, insurers in the United States were disputing an accumulated total of $1.3 billion in claims, the ACLI reports. Included in that amount were $396 million in death benefits turned down in 2009. In the same year, insurers paid out $59 billion, the ACLI reports.
What those numbers don't measure is the trauma that survivors like Jane Pierce face when wrongfully denied, says Aaron Doyle, a professor of sociology and criminology at Carleton University in Ottawa.
Most people don't sue
Most survivors don't have the stamina and knowledge to file a lawsuit, says Doyle, who has spent a decade interviewing life insurance customers, employees and regulators in the United States and Canada. Often, survivors are dissuaded by their insurers from taking their grievances to state regulators or to court, Doyle says.
"The company tells the customer, 'Oh no, that's not an unusual practice, so you don't really have a complaint,' " he says.
Insurers have an obligation to policyholders and shareholders to challenge death claims they consider fraudulent, says John Langbein, a professor at Yale Law School who co-authored the book "Pension and Employee Benefit Law." Insurers maintain a reserve of money to cover benefits.
'Conflict of interest'
"It's their job to protect the insurance pool by blocking undeserved payouts," Langbein says. But that doesn't give them the right to wrongly deny claims, he adds. "There's a profound structural conflict of interest," he says. "The insurer benefits if it rejects the claim. Insurers like to take in premiums. They don't like to pay out claims."
MetLife and Prudential Financial in Newark, N.J., declined to answer all questions on cases cited in this story, as well as all queries about ERISA and accidental death policies.
"We pride ourselves on delivering on our promises, paying claims in accordance with the terms of the policy and applicable law," says Joseph Madden, a MetLife spokesman.
"Our insurance businesses' primary focus is on paying claims," says Simon Locke, a Prudential spokesman. "Contested claims represent a small fraction of the overall number of claims that are paid. Prudential's claims professionals are trained to conduct an appropriate review and follow applicable laws, regulations and the terms of the policy."
Locke says Prudential denied 33 claims for misrepresentation in 2010, while paying out on about 255,000 policies. He declined to say how many claims Prudential denied for other reasons.
A $7.7 trillion business
Company-provided life insurance is a big business. Employers can offer either accidental death policies -- which cover only fatalities that an insurer deems to be accidental -- or term life insurance, or both. Group policies in the United States have a total face value of $7.7 trillion, or about 40 percent of all life insurance in the nation, according to ACLI data.
ERISA contracts bring the industry about $25 billion in annual revenue. MetLife says it has 20 percent of the ERISA market.
So eager are the largest insurers to get these ERISA contracts that they sometimes cross a line, according to prosecutors in California and New York. MetLife and Prudential have made improper, undisclosed payments to brokers to win business with companies, according to settlements.
MetLife and Prudential each paid $19 million to settle accusations by the New York Attorney General's Office in 2006 that they had illegally paid brokers to get new corporate clients. In a similar case, MetLife paid $500,000 and Prudential spent $350,000 to settle with three California counties in 2008. In those cases, the insurers didn't admit wrongdoing.
On April 15, 2010, in a San Diego case, MetLife admitted that it broke the law by paying a dealmaker to win insurance contracts, and it agreed with the U.S. Department of Justice to pay $13.5 million to avoid criminal prosecution.
"MetLife made illegal payments that should have been fully disclosed," says Karen Hewitt, who was then the U.S. attorney in San Diego and is now a partner at Jones Day. "Because they were not, the transactions were criminal."
MetLife's Madden says the company improved its broker compensation reporting starting in 2004. Prudential says it cooperated with investigators and enhanced disclosure.
The money that life insurers refuse to pay to people like Jane Pierce is emblematic of how the industry is increasingly making efforts to delay paying out benefits. In the past two decades, insurers have made a common practice of keeping money owed to survivors in their own investment accounts, even after claims are approved.
Instead of sending lump-sum checks to survivors, companies send them "checkbooks." More than 130 insurers held $28 billion, as of July 2010, owed to families in these so-called "retained-asset" accounts.
Prudential, which has a contract with the U.S. government to provide life insurance to 6 million service members and their families, has sent such "checkbooks" to survivors requesting lump sums since 1999. MetLife uses the same system for payments to survivors of the 4 million federal employees it covers.
In September, seven weeks after Bloomberg Markets magazine reported that Prudential was sending "checkbooks" to families of those killed in combat, the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs changed its policy and required that Prudential pay a lump sum when survivors make such a request.
Jane Pierce's battle
Jane Pierce's battle with MetLife began two months after her husband died. Todd Pierce, a power plant mechanic for PPL, which has its headquarters in Allentown, Pa., was diagnosed in 1999 with a skin cancer called squamous cell carcinoma in his nasal cavity. The treatment of the disease itself was a success. Within two years, he was cancer-free.
During the next eight years, Todd had more than 40 surgeries to rebuild his jaw and palate following his medical therapy.
"He was a fighter," Jane says.
On July 5, 2009, Todd was at a family reunion in Bismarck, N.D., 350 miles east of Colstrip. While there, he made plans to go pheasant hunting three months later with his father, Donald, and elk hunting with an old friend after that.
"He had a lot planned," Jane Pierce says.
It was sunny and hot that day as Todd drove home. He had been on the road for more than four hours when, at 5:25 p.m., he lost control of his pickup on a stretch of highway 18 miles north of Colstrip, according to state police records. The vehicle rolled down an embankment and burst into flames.
Letters and calls
He died of smoke inhalation, according to the autopsy report. No one else was hurt in the accident.
A month later, MetLife sent Jane Pierce a "checkbook" for her to tap the $224,000 from Todd's term life insurance policy through PPL. She didn't receive any form of payment on Todd's accidental death policy. Instead, for four months, MetLife officials flooded her with letters and phone calls.
They asked her to send them the state's accident report, the death certificate, toxicology reports, medical records from 20 doctors and Todd's drug prescription files.
Jane Pierce, who lives in a three-bedroom ranch house filled with framed photos of Todd and her sons, says she did everything she could to get MetLife all the facts. She didn't know what the company was after and says she felt the insurer was trying to wear her down.
"I was just so frustrated," she says. "MetLife was taking and misconstruing information to see if I would give up."
At one point, a MetLife employee told her by telephone that Todd's medical files showed he had toxic levels of Tramadol, a pain reliever, in his body when he died. Jane told him that a doctor had prescribed the drug for Todd.
At Jane's request, Thomas Bennett, Montana's associate medical examiner, explained the high readings of the pain medicine to MetLife.
"This Tramadol elevation is an artifact of the severe damage Mr. Pierce's body received following the crash and is not a result of taking sky-high levels of the drug," Bennett wrote. He said the drug wasn't the cause of death.
Jane recounts the ordeal as she sits at her kitchen table with Debra Terrett, a family friend. Laid out before them are stacks of neatly organized health and insurance file folders.
"She not only lost Todd," Terrett says. "Every time she had to go through the paperwork, she had to walk through losing him again."
The toughest day turned out to be Dec. 8, 2009. That's when MetLife sent her an unsigned letter containing this sentence: "We will not pay benefits for any loss caused or contributed to by intentionally self-inflicted injury." MetLife concluded that Todd Pierce had killed himself by taking an overdose of Tramadol.
Jane Pierce says she was dumbfounded. She cried for days.
"It's bogus," she recalls thinking. "How can a responsible company possibly lie in such a terrifying way?"
Not only was Todd an upbeat man who had defeated a dreadful disease, he also opposed suicide as a matter of faith, Jane says. The couple attended St. Margaret Mary Catholic Church every Sunday, and they were members of a Bible study group.
"After a suicide in our town, Todd and I used to talk about it," Jane says. "As Catholics, we agreed that was no way to heaven."
A co-worker referred Jane to a lawyer, Don Harris, in Billings, Mont. Under ERISA, Harris first had to file an appeal directly with MetLife, which the insurer ignored, Harris says. Pierce sued the company in federal court in Billings for breach of contract in May 2010.
'They had no facts . . .'
The insurer hired a Montana lawyer who rebuffed Pierce again, six weeks later. Harris says he then had a rational telephone call with the lawyer about the facts.
"Very quickly, he realized that they didn't have a leg to stand on," Harris says. After that, MetLife agreed to pay out the full policy amount. The case never went to trial.
Because ERISA prevents compensatory and punitive damages, Jane Pierce wasn't entitled to receive anything more. Harris, who was paid a fee of $4,500 for his seven months, estimates that a jury not bound by ERISA would have awarded punitive damages of more than $1 million -- five to 10 times the death benefit.
"They accused her husband of committing suicide, which is outrageous," he says. "They had no facts to support it. They just literally made it up."
'Nothing we can do'
Pierce never requested help from Montana's insurance department. If she had, she would have been turned away, says Amanda Roccabruna Eby, a spokeswoman. She says the agency can't assist people like Pierce because of ERISA's federal pre-emption.
"There's nothing we can do," she says. "We don't have any authority." The department does not even track ERISA complaints.
Prudential used the ERISA shield when it denied payment to the widower of a middle school teacher in Rochester, N.Y. Lois Brondon died of a heart attack at age 49 while refereeing a soccer game in May 2007.
The company refused to pay her husband, Christian, the $50,000 death benefit, saying the educator had failed to disclose her "heart trouble" when she applied for insurance.
Christian, who knew his wife had no history of a heart condition, sued Prudential in U.S. district court in Rochester.
"Mrs. Brondon had absolutely no symptoms referable to cardiac disease or heart trouble," Judge Michael Telesca ruled on Nov. 9, 2010. He said her records showed common and mild thickening of the aorta that required no medical treatment and didn't limit her activities in any way.
The judge, finding that Lois Brondon had been truthful on her application for insurance, ordered Prudential to pay the full $50,000.
The judge said Prudential's reasoning created false grounds that the company could use to wrongfully deny death benefits to others.
"Indeed, under such a scenario, only Prudential would be allowed to define what constitutes 'heart trouble,' " the judge wrote.
Three weeks later, a judge in Lexington, Ky., ruled on a case that shows how inventive insurers can be in their denials -- even to the point of invoking drunk-driving laws when the person who died wasn't in a car.
U.S. District Court Judge Joseph Hood ruled that Prudential had wrongly denied a $300,000 accidental death benefit to the family of Ernest Loan.
Loan, a medical sales representative for Bayer AG, fell down a staircase in his house after drinking three glasses of wine on June 29, 2006, according to court records. Prudential told his wife, Mimi, in a Nov. 7, 2006, letter that 53-year-old Ernest was drunk by state standards used in DUI cases.
The Loan family sued Prudential in January 2008. Hood initially dismissed the case, saying Prudential's argument was sufficient under ERISA guidelines. The judge was reversed by the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, which said drunk-driving law doesn't outlaw performing chores around the house.
"A legal definition specifically intended to apply to someone who is driving a motor vehicle is not rational as applied to someone who is in his home and is not operating machinery," the court wrote.
On Nov. 30, 2010, Hood ordered Prudential to pay the family $300,000.
The threshold for what judges will accept as evidence in an ERISA case can be so low that an insurer can use Internet searches and not interview witnesses.
Acting on scant evidence
Brad Kellogg, an employee of Pfizer Inc., died in September 2004 when he crashed his Dodge Caravan into a tree in Merced, Calif. MetLife paid his widow, Cherilyn, $443,184 under Kellogg's term life policy. The insurer then received a letter from Stephen Morris, Merced County's deputy coroner.
"Mr. Kellogg died as a result of traumatic injuries sustained in a motor vehicle accident," Morris wrote. "His death is considered to be accidental."
MetLife refused in November 2005 to cover his $438,000 accidental death policy, saying Kellogg's death was caused by a seizure while driving. The insurer referred to a police report citing an eyewitness to the crash.
"It appears that Mr. Kellogg may have possibly had a seizure," police wrote.
Cherilyn wrote to MetLife, disputing its conclusion, on Jan. 13, 2006. MetLife again refused to pay.
She sued in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City on July 26, 2006, for breach of contract. MetLife didn't provide medical evidence and didn't specify what kind of seizure supposedly occurred, court records show.
'The low end'
Judge Dale Kimball found that MetLife's medical research was limited to Internet searches. The company failed to interview witnesses, the coroner, the police or responding paramedics and didn't obtain Kellogg's medical records, the judge wrote.
Even with those findings, Kimball dismissed the case. He said the insurer met the standard of proof under ERISA.
"The court need only assure that the administrator's decision falls somewhere on the continuum of reasonableness -- even if on the low end," the judge wrote.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit reversed that decision in December 2008.
"MetLife wholly ignored Kellogg's counsel's request for documentation," the court wrote. "The car crash -- not the seizure -- caused the loss at issue, i.e. Brad Kellogg's death."
Kimball then ordered the insurer to pay the full face value of the accidental death policy, as well as $75,377 in legal fees and 10% interest.
Under ERISA, insurers have also been able to dispute the nature of deaths that involve medical errors. In February 2007, Trudy Barnes, a 31-year-old housewife in Wills Point, Texas, had elective surgery for scoliosis, an abnormal curvature of the spine.
During the procedure at Baylor Regional Medical Center in Plano, an anesthesiologist incorrectly inserted a catheter into her chest, causing massive internal bleeding, a medical examiner found. She died two days later.
Her husband, Clint, an aircraft mechanic, had purchased an American International Group accidental death insurance policy for her in 2004. The coverage came through a group plan from his employer, L-3 Communications Holdings Inc., a company in New York that maintains Air Force planes. It was Trudy Barnes' only life insurance policy.
AIG sent a letter to Clint Barnes on Sept. 6, 2007, saying it wouldn't pay out on the policy.
"This is an accident-only policy and does not cover sickness or disease," AIG, then the world's largest insurer, told Barnes in a letter. "We regret that our decision could not be favorable."
Barnes says he couldn't believe an insurer could make up such an excuse.
"How could they say that when the death certificate says it's an accident?" he asks. He needed $16,000 for his wife's funeral, he says, and he expected to get the money from her insurance.
Barnes sued AIG for breach of contract in July 2008 in New York. His lawyer, Michael Quiat, says insurers face no risk when denying claims under ERISA.
"From a business standpoint, it makes perfect sense for them," he says.
On Feb. 4, 2010, U.S. District Court Judge Denny Chin granted Barnes' motion for summary judgment, meaning he found the facts against AIG so overwhelming that there was no need for a trial.
'Arbitrary and capricious'
"This was an unintentional, unexpected, unusual and unforeseen event -- an accident," the judge ruled. "AIG's determination to the contrary must be set aside as arbitrary and capricious."
AIG paid Barnes the $148,000 death benefit, along with unspecified interest and attorney fees of $50,533.
AIG spokesman Mark Herr declined to comment on the specifics of the case. "It is AIG's practice to conduct a good-faith review of all claims submitted to determine whether a particular claim is covered," Herr says. "If a claim is not covered by the policy in question, we do not pay it."
Barnes says he can see now why life insurers would routinely deny legitimate claims.
"They know the average person doesn't know what to do," he says. "They figure you're the little guy. Just pay us your money, and we'll keep it."
A death in a war zone
One of the highest-profile cases of an insurer refusing to pay a death benefit claim involved television correspondent David Bloom. He reported live from Iraq for NBC News for 18 days in 2003.
Bloom rode with U.S. troops as they fought their way into Iraq to topple the Saddam Hussein regime. He spent up to 20 hours a day sitting with his knees bent, jamming his 6-foot frame into a 2-foot-by-3½-foot space inside an M88 tank recovery vehicle, says his cameraman, Craig White.
"We were unable to straighten our legs, and we weren't able to stand," White says. "Added to this, we were required to wear chemical gear, flak jackets with trauma plates and helmets."
On April 2, 2003, Bloom hurt his left foot leaping from the vehicle to the sand, White says. Four days later, the journalist collapsed and died. He was 39.
A blood clot from his leg, called a deep vein thrombosis, had traveled through his bloodstream to his lungs, causing a fatal pulmonary embolism, his autopsy revealed.
MetLife, which provided insurance for General Electric Co., then the parent company of NBC, paid Bloom's widow, Melanie, $2.9 million on his term life policy. The insurer refused to pay on Bloom's $1.2 million accidental death policy.
One doctor's opinion
In a denial letter dated July 23, 2003, MetLife said Bloom had died because his genetic background had made him three to six times more at risk of a deep vein thrombosis than the average person.
MetLife relied on Clayton Hauser, a St. Petersburg, Fla., family physician. Hauser is the same doctor who in 1994 performed a drug test that caused a new employee at Bankers Insurance Group to lose her job because of what she ate for breakfast.
The insurer dismissed Julie Carter after Hauser determined she had tested positive for morphine. Actually, Carter was clean; she had just eaten two poppy seed bagels.
Carter sued Bankers under a federal law protecting workers wrongly accused of drug use. She won $859,000 from the insurer.
"That's not my fault," Hauser says of the false positive for Carter. "That's what the lab reported. I collected a urine sample."
Abraham Jaros, Melanie Bloom's attorney, asked three medical experts to examine her husband's death, and each determined it was accidental. Kenneth Hymes, a professor at New York University School of Medicine, concluded that MetLife was wrong to blame David Bloom's genes for his death.
"That would be like saying the cause of a fire was oxygen rather than gasoline or a match," Hymes wrote on Nov. 18, 2003. "Almost every person has some genetic mutation. Mr. Bloom had this gene mutation for 39 years, traveled extensively on airplanes with cramped conditions and experienced no problems."
Melanie Bloom sued MetLife in federal court in New York in July 2004, and the company settled for an undisclosed amount in October 2005. She declined to comment in detail on the case.
"Given the painful and deeply personal nature of this matter, I am not able to participate," she says.
In Colstrip, Jane Pierce says the odds are stacked against families when insurers wrongfully deny benefits.
"I think it's just a racket," she says.
Sitting at her kitchen table, she recalls how husband Todd's health had been improving just before his fatal crash and how they were looking forward to skiing in the winter. Two years after he died, his voice is still on their home answering machine.
She says she got the strength to fight the life insurance company from Todd, who would never give up.
"He'd amaze me," she says.
This article was reported by David Evans for Bloomberg Businessweek.
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MetLife admitted that it broke the law by paying a dealmaker to win insurance contracts, and it agreed with the U.S. Department of Justice to pay $13.5 million to avoid criminal prosecution.
Can I do this too? can I admit that I broke a law and buy my way out of criminal prosecution? Aren't corporations treated as individuals? This is amazing...
These insurance companies are violating the law and should be prosecuted and those responsible for the crimes should go to prison and the companies should be shut down.
If you did what these companies do such as withholding information, theft by deception , giving false and or deceptive information you could go to prison. Every single person in this country should be demanding that these scum bag insurance companies be prosecuted to the full extent of the law just as you would be if you committed these crimes. We should all be demanding to know from your elected officials why these companies are not being prosecuted for criminal practices as you would be. I intend to start hounding my elected officials as to why insurance companies are apparently above the laws that they would hold you accountable to.
I also intend to make sure that I no longer invest in any company that has anything to do with MetLife and to inform everyone I know about the criminal practices of MetLife and other companies like them. If you want to stop these companies from the crimes they perpetrate you have to take action against them.
Aha! Didn't learn much new about insurance companies, everyone I know who has a company or even personal disability policy with a company that uses something called Unum to service it, they refuse to pay, drag it on and on and as one persons Attorney told them almost all of these policies stop paying after two years because of some clause broadly written in the policies. I did find it interesting that:
Congress passed ERISA in 1974 because of business bankrupcies and union scandalss caused thousands of employees to lose benefits. The law requires employers to disclose insurance and pension plan finances, and it holds company and union officials personally accountable for maintaining sufficient funding. Maybe that is why unions are so helpful to Obama and backed his Obamacare. IF they can't fund the health care they promise after retirement the top will have to answer as to where the money went. Golly if only ERISA applied to the politicians. Since they stole the money from Social Security and Medicare I would think all the politicians that voted for transfering these fund from trust funds into the general fund and all those that have continued the practice could go to jail. Would that be poetic justice or what?
Comments here relate to life insurance but please, if you have a car accident, do not sign off on any papers regarding any injuries, because any bouncing or jerking to your neck and spinal cord may not show up for days or weeks. Happened to a family member. Do not say you were not hurt, ever. Also, have a mechanic check your car's engine etc. My car ended up with a crack to some inside part. Repairing the outside of the car is important but for naught it suddenly it stops running.
Excellent reporting, Bloomberg, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Imagine what happens when you become disabled and try to file a claim through your employer's disability insurance megacorporation. Try to fight the routine denial and exhausting runaround when you're on your back.
Big bucks in this business of disability insurance denial. Google financial trader hitler and buffett satire
I have seen one attempt to get out of a policy fail by stating the policy was void because the insured missed the last payment before death... the last payment was due 3 days AFTER his death. That was one they could not get out of once they received the death certificate.
"Buy your own policy through your personal agent. They don't have to apply to ERISA laws. They may still try to deny claims, but you have more recourse to sue."
I agree with the above stated by Catherine (CatJMJ). Thinking back through the years of various friends and family members who died and had paid for life insurance apart from their jobs, their families were blessed by receiving those benefits quickly. In fact, I remember an insurance company contacting me about 9 months after a family member had died because I was the only remaining relative, but there wasn't any updated information on my whereabouts so they had to look for me. I did not know about the policy and was touched by the personal and caring nature of that insurance company.
I will say it one more time. You americans need to get a public plan ! I live in france and we have the best working health care system in the world. It is very affordable to all citizens.
Now what most of you do not understand is that when it comes to taxes, yes you may pay a little more with a public plan but when you think of it, how much is it costing you to pay a private insurance, also you have deductibles which I consider outrageous. In our universal health care, there are NO deductible. The government reimburse the bills right away.
When you have universal health care, you PAY into it FOR YOURSELF.
The insurance industry has been ripping off americans for way too long. They do not care about your health, they only care about your money !
You will love having a public plan because the government will ALWAYS pay the bills.
They will insure EVERYBODY ! and in the end with universal health care, you will get PREVENTIVE CARE which means that the whole country will save hundreds of millions of dollars and for you people paying a little more taxes will be cheaper than giving it to those criminals that are insurance companies. You will have peace of mind and will never loose your homes because you cannot pay your bills.
With our universal health care in France, we can see any doctors we want, only patient and doctors decided of the best treatment and treaments and test are never denied to us.
THIS IS GREAT ! I lived in the usa without health insurance for 10 years and now that I am in France, I love it because I will never have to worry !
A root canal in france cost 80 euros/ so 100 dollars
a colonoscopy cost 32 euros !!
dermathologue visite 28 euros !
Most medecines are reimbused 100% as all the above !
Your insurances companies and doctors are ripping you off ! also, our medical records are now all electronic/ no more paper work to mess with.
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