Bigger risk: Serial killer or spouse?

Are we terrified of the wrong things? Often, what scares us most isn’t what's most likely to do us harm. Here's a look at what’s truly dangerous, from wild beasts to warm baths.


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Feb 21, 2011 1:27PM
The author or authors of this piece just lost all credibility with the assertion on page 4 that a reduction in maternal mortality has allowed "natural female superiority to shine through".  You clearly haven't met my ex-wife.
Feb 21, 2011 12:26PM
Real funny article...made me chuckle on a few 'facts'...But c'mon folks!!   Men are VICTIMS more than women when it comes to being murdered by their spouse/mate and the WOMEN commits more of the crimes??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??!?!  I gotta go back and read that one again , because that can't possibly be right.....
This is the reason why I refuse to live in a gated community, pay extra, inconveniencing yourself and every single person that comes to visit, all in the name of safety when...the likelihood that if you are murdered at all, is going to be someone that LIVES IN YOUR HOUSE!  
Feb 21, 2011 10:45AM

Yes, some of you got it right, the most likely to kill you is the police in USA, (part of government): By "accidents", like chasing thousands of mostly youth into trees, houses or telephone poles, or simply just rolling with the car and falling out, getting crushed, and then there is the "suspect" simply pulling out his cell phone to call his attorney, and somehow he winds up dead, because it "looked Like a Gun(they forgot to read the constitution about punishment and proof) (now most cell phones have lost the little 2 inch antenna, so I wonder how long that excuse can last (in court), and then we have all the injured people caused by police in just about any situation, many resulting in death--all in all about 10,000 a year. It will take at least 100 years to match that from lightening and bears, although  as a member of the airplane crash commission in a country in EU, I did investigate a couple of incidents where lightening had  struck the fighter, and they did land safely, but with some stange"weldings" inside even in the fuel tanks, and the electronics (my stuff) was completely lost., But it really did not bother me here for 40 years, since I used to fly for about $ 50,000 a year.

So let us get back to investigating "the real problem" before we have an Egypt here--like the start in Wisconsin! I have been in several hundred of the biggest  food and drink plants (getting to know the regular people) and do not think that things are as wonderful as some like to think! Let is make this country better than any country in EU-----! It will not be in my lifetime!

Feb 21, 2011 1:22PM
@megand The only reason I may (and I say may cautiously) believe that men are more victims than women is because the crimes are of men against men not women against men.  This study I should hope factored in black on black murders which is usually male gang members against other male gang members drug addicts and dealers ect...which does account for a good majority of why men are considered victims I am sure.  How many women gangs do you know?  I venture to say if you take black on black murders and gang/drug dealing murders out of the question the majority of the victims would be women....just saying. 
Feb 21, 2011 3:39PM

Interesting bastardization of statistical analysis.  When the author wants to make the case that lightning is more likely to kill you than a bear, it's down to sheer # of people killed, not people killed per lightning strike.  Wouldn't it be more accurate to count # people killed/# lightning strikes and compare that to # people killed/number of person-bear encounters?  Oh wait, that's harder to do.

And what about the spouse/serial killer piece...3, or even 6 or 10 times more people are killed by their spouses in a year than by serial killers?  But what about on a per-interaction or per-murder opportunity basis? Given the vast # of spouses (or spice if you like Tongue out) in the country, the relative chance of being killed by your spouse is tiny.


Interesting that they pointed out these kind of discrepancies in the dog/snake and bus/train comparisons...kinda like pick-and-choose, don't you think?

Feb 21, 2011 11:29AM
With what is going on in Wisconsin  with the tea party ...I think if the tea party suceeds in taking away a persons right to negotiate a fair contract and you know if they do suceed they will be stripping pensions next so with this in mind I think the Tea party will be the cause of death for many americans because there will be no retirement, they will have to work till they die...Thanks Tea party  for screwing everyone and representing only the rich..I hope you choke on your you can't take it with you so you better enjoy it here.
Feb 21, 2011 11:36AM
Here we go again with the pro US ignorant types, only 15,000 were killed each year "called murder", so the police effectiveness is several thousand percent worse than anything else!--unfortunately​ a police killing is never called a murder, except a couple of cases where they have killed one of their own, like the long long story years ago on Long Island where one of them blew another one up in his car--I guess the "blue code" did not protect him, but they tried for years!!--but ask the family what the differences are to them seeing their loved ones molecules evaporate into the sky!--Sorry strictly a scientist here!!
Feb 21, 2011 10:27AM
What would happen to the horse/motorcycle match up if you were to consider the miles on each the way plane, auto, train and bus are? I probably put as many miles on my bike in an hour as a horse rider does in a month or more.
Feb 21, 2011 12:17PM
These statistics only give you a generalization of what one can do over the other.  It does not mean that dangers that are far more extreme than the usuall everyday comparisons can not be eliminated.  Everyday we play those gory video games or those extreme violent movies we watch are not a possibility of what could be real and what is fantasy, but we like to see what happens next out of curiousity.  The most dangerous of all our deaths would be if we had a global wipeout from an unknown enemy that we can not predict will kill us.  So don't knock what the scientists are trying to do here.  They are just helping us to answer the questions we ask them, so we can have a clearer picture of the scope of things.  These facts are based on studies taken.   We conquer our fears by not letting it rule our lives. 
Feb 21, 2011 11:31AM
Which is more dangerous male or female?  Which is gender is more likely to send you to an early grave?  This is what the question was, but you answered the question as if asked who was more likely to die first, not which gender was more likely to murder you, which was the question in the first place.  Why can't you answer the question the question with the proper article rather than one that states a fact that we already knew, women live longer than men?  We already know that.
Feb 21, 2011 8:05AM
I could go along with this story if it weren't for one thing. In academies and college courses where they teach criminal investigation, they teach that certain suspects are to be considered above all others. In murder cases the spouse is supposed to be considered above all other suspects. Even in our small town there has been cases where investigators refused to consider any suspect other than the spouse. As far as I can tell, the only exceptions are where the victim was either somewhere the spouse would never go, or somebody witnessed something at the murder scene which indicated another suspect.

Heaven help you if your spouse is murdered in the home and you can't provide an ironclad alibi.

Feb 21, 2011 3:27PM
Actually, I clearly remember when two boys jumped in a St. Louis (at least I think it was St. Louis) polar bear cage and were killed.  This happened about 15 years ago. Thus this reporting is not true-people have been killed by polar bears this century?????
Feb 21, 2011 3:29PM
Ummm...Prunes...15 years ago would have been the 20th century and we're now in the 21st the statement would be right and you would be wrong.
Feb 21, 2011 12:24PM
956 I don't think it was directed towards was directed towards criminalswho kill women & children...
Feb 21, 2011 1:07PM
It's interesting to me that although 80% of murder victims are indeed male, whenever you watch a TV cop show at least 80% of the murder victims in the stories are attractive young females.  Says something about our culture, doesn't it--women are still considered "victims," yet men are not, when in fact the opposite is true.  And, although a small number of wives kill their husbands, the vast majority of murders of males are committed by other males.
Feb 21, 2011 11:50AM
In regard to the topic of this discussion...who cares. What I want to know is...what is wrong with the performance of this web page? These new MSN pages drive me nuts!
Feb 21, 2011 3:28PM
Somewhat interesting, but where're the statistics on getting killed in an airliner terrorist attack?  As I recall, Nate Silver calculated the odds at 1 in 3,000,000 BEFORE the latest ramp up in intrusive and possibly dangerous X rays and groping of law abiding citizens that will do nothing (or very, very little) to improve the odds any.  If you're not worried about being killed by lightening, why would you be worried about being killed in a terrorist attack, which is several times less likely?  Land of the free and home of the brave?  Hardly.  More like "Land of the intimidated and home of the fearful".
Feb 21, 2011 9:55AM
Adding fatalities at grade crossings to make statistics more meaningful in fact makes them less so because the only person really interested in this statistic is the passenger.
Feb 21, 2011 3:31PM
are these stats correct?! 3 children die each week in the bathtub?
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