12/28/2011 3:55 PM ET|
Deliverance or disaster in 2012?
We'll find out soon enough: Standard & Poor's announced that it will complete its credit review of 15 eurozone members and the eurozone bailout fund in January, in light of the disappointing Dec. 9 summit in which Germany pushed for stricter enforcement of European Union austerity rules instead of a comprehensive solution to the crisis. The analysts noted last month that there is a 50-50 chance of en masse credit downgrades, the sort of move that ignited the August stock market wipeout after S&P cut America's AAA credit rating.
Why? Political bungling, a failure to address the structural issues at the heart of Europe's woes and the vulnerability of Europe's "core" countries -- trade-surplus nations including Germany, Austria, the Netherlands and Finland -- all point to a eurozone recession because of their reliance on exports.
In fact, those countries could be even more vulnerable than troubled net eurozone importers like Portugal, Greece and Spain and suffer a larger contraction of gross domestic product in 2012 as a result. This vulnerability was on display in 2009 when GDP in four of these core countries weakened more than Spain's did. What's worse is that in 2009, fiscal stimulus helped support the situation; now it's all about austerity, with Germany set to close its budget deficit by nearly 4% of GDP between 2010 and 2013.
Either way, Europe will soon test the markets' resolve. It will start in January when, according to UBS analysts, the eurozone will float 82 billion euros in new debt -- about $107 billion -- on the way to 234 billion for the first quarter, and 740 billion for the year. Bond investors are likely to balk, pushing up borrowing costs for the likes of Italy and igniting the next stage of the crisis.
Earnings disappointments ahead
We'll also soon see the start of earnings season, with Alcoa getting things started on Jan. 9. Earnings season will also be another source of disappointment, according to Morgan Stanley analyst Mike Wilson, who notes that 2012 will be the "payback year" for many of the positive tail winds the global economy has enjoyed over the past three years. Those tail winds -- things like fiscal stimulus (the recent payroll tax extension isn't new, just maintaining what we already had), a weaker dollar, positive labor productivity (boosting profits) and accelerated capital spending -- are fading.
No wonder, then, that a number of companies have come out with negative earnings results, preannouncements or guidance, including Oracle (ORCL, news), Red Hat (RHT, news), General Mills (GIS, news), Best Buy (BBY, news), Walgreen (WAG, news), Tiffany (TIF, news), Amazon.com (AMZN, news)and Darden Restaurants (DRI, news).
To put it simply, reality is unleashing a pincer movement on the Pollyannaish stock market bulls. Both the macroeconomic and company-level situations are deteriorating rapidly, despite Wall Street's cute end-of-year, let's-boost-my-bonus rebound.
I know that's not a warm and fuzzy message to carry into the new year. But I've got to call it like I see it.
And finally, we've got to talk about the elephant in the room, or maybe it's a donkey: the upcoming presidential election and the politics of the 11 months leading up to it.
The last-minute, two-month agreement to extend unemployment benefits and the payroll tax cut in Washington pretty much summed up the fortunes of bipartisanship in Washington in 2011. The most acute consequence of this was the failure of the congressional supercommittee (birthed out of August's big battle over the debt ceiling) to find at least $1.2 trillion in revenue and budget cuts over the next 10 years.
Now, $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts are about to hit, focused mainly on the Pentagon.
Here's the thing: According to Fitch analysts, the failure of the supercommittee to do its work on structural drivers of the deficit -- mainly health care spending -- increases the amount of austerity and pain needed to right the ship of state later. Specifically, they believe even under an optimistic economic scenario, the failure of the supercommittee will necessitate an additional $3.5 trillion in budget cuts just to stabilize the federal debt -- which, at more than $15.1 trillion, has just crossed an oft-cited threshold, reaching 100% of GDP.
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The USPS is finally getting through to the powers that be that they can't continue to operate in the red. Closing 100 sorting centers will put some people out of work, but in the larger picture it saves the PO for another budget.
Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece and Spain have debt they can't pay off and every time the EU announces a plan to ward off implosion the stock market goes up. Days or weeks later when reality raises it's head, the stock market dives.
The retailers haven't come up with what the blitz created as to their bottom line. The company that owns Sears and Kmart has announced they are closing 100 stores. There will be more belt tightening after the first of the year, both personally and corporately. Look for more companies to layoff workers, close or move the operation.
The fat lady isn't ready to sing................
I've given in to the notion that our economy will collapse to a point no matter what. Our government has led us into such a deep hole that it will be years before we see light no matter who wins 2012.
our (elected) officials have driven us down a wrong path when many of us had some kind of faith in them that it would be ok as long as our side won. well, we've been tricked. hopefully if the "entertain me" generation wakes up we'll be able to do something about this. if not, were looking at the reality of our situation being kicked down the road even further untill it hits a wall. or a better analogy, digging the hole deeper untill we hit china.
With the world on the brink of collapse, and chaotic protests ( seemingly an islamic takeover in some places) And all of our unaffordable entitlists programs, and the governments regulations driving buisness/job creation away( mainly due to special interest groups lobbying), With OWS, ( in my opinion a group funded/created by rich socialists and the left extremists to create chaos and divert the attention from the socialist agenda) creating diversions against (Certain?) candidates in the upcoming elections, and attacking buisnesses and hard working americans along the way( not knowing what they are doing, thinking it's a good idea) (Obamas civil defence brown shirts). Iran Provoking and being provoked to hostilities, China gearing up for something naval, the unknown with north koreas future, Even aside from the rest of the world, All of our taxes and uncertainty with our very livings.
Upon everything else thats been going on were in for a really Really Bumpy Road ahead in the coming years.
If '57 States' is re-elected, I recommend preparing for the worst. Buy Specie, guns, ammo, food and water. Stock up. The democrat economic policies will end badly. Can you really stave off bankruptcy by borrowing and spending? Has 5 trillion in new debt helped us? Will 5 trillion more?
This 15,200,000,000,000 debt is 192,000 per family of 4 (assuming 308 million Americans). The democrats have not presented a plan to pay off this debt. Since FDR, we have not paid off a single dime of debt. Would you make a loan to someone that has borrowed for 80 years, never paid off a dime, and now wants to borrow again?
A few months ago we passed a measure to increase the 'debt limit' by 10% or 1.5 billion, now are at that limit AGAIN. These DEMOCRAT policies will not end well...
So if Obama makes it in again Gold will go up? Is there any financial reason for that? HELL NO! But then again, Wall Street hardly ever uses sound financial guidelines for their hearsay, lies or crap!
deliverance or disaster??? i saw the movie deliverance and it was pretty much a disaster for just about everyone - one raped, one dead from shooting/drowning, two dead from bow-shot, one fractured leg, and one with recurring nightmares/night sweats ......
so sit back, buckle your seat belts, put your heads between your legs, and kiss your *** goodbye ... once in that state of mind you can think clearly about the simple acts of survival ... working on bunker supplies, practicing with your concealed carry and pistol-grip pump shotgun, storing up gold eagles and the lead ammo to protect them .... forewarned is forearmed ....
sweet dreams ...
Endeavor, you have it wrong. The European banks are in trouble BECAUSE they hold GOVERNMENT debt. Greek, Italian, Spanish, Irish, Portugese, and a host of other government debt on the books of the banks is likely NEVER to be PAID back. It was spent foolishly on socialist programs that are failing. The great Ponzi schemes require ever more borrowing.
The problem with the Euro, is that these governments cannot debase their way out of trouble, like we are attempting to do. They have to BALANCE their budgets, and run surplus' and earmark that to pay down debt. Much like we need to do. But that requires they end their socialist programs. This of course will send the one recieving the handouts to the streets and these people have discovered they can vote themselves more.
All in all the problem lies not with the banks, but with the failed socialist governments NOT PAYING their bills. So you are right in one regard, it will not end well... Maybe you should tell '57 States' to quit borrowing and pissing away taxpayer money, and start cutting spending, so we don't end up like them...
General Mills looks okay because we are all only gonna be able to afford cereal to eat. Beyond that' I'll stick with Gold.
It all turns on the election, can the **** GOP get their act together and all get behind one smart guy. We don't need anyomore Hope and Change, I've had about all of Obozo I can stomach. If Obozo wins, I'll buy more gold cause with his policies, gold is gonna rip..
The downside is already built-in, and the upside is enormous as fears continue to fade and valuations improve to match earnings.
Anothony provides some good info though. Earnings expectations are coming in *above* actual earnings reports.
That's not a sign that the fear is priced in. It's a sign of the opposite. As opposed to say on his chart, Q32009. When expectations were almost 20% below actual earnings reports. Because the environment was way over feared in 2009.
So priced in...not in actual data. But I do agree that there is an "expectation" for the worst. But that doesn't necessarily correlate to much value right now. P/Es are around 12 on the S&P 500. Not very low, not very high. A little below the long term average.
Look for the US economy to lead the rest of the world out of the doldrums, the US Dollar and Euro to approach parity, and the S&P 500 to increase to 1500, or approximately a 20% increase from the current level.
I fear we have a retest coming at lower levels. The S&P basically hasn't retested anywhere near the "666" end of the world level since it hit bottom in 2009. I don't think it will go that far, but key levels around 900-1000 are in the cards IMO.
Europe is going to either 1) have a huge spending cut by the governments, which will deflate things and thus reprice everything low or 2) The ECB floods the system with cash to avoid deflation, which also devalues things on a relative basis, or a combination of both.
Regardless of all that, there's a very high possibility that a country like Greece, Ireland, Portugal, etc end up out of the EU. Because some countries in the EU *should* have higher currency value and some *should* have lower currency value. The currency union is not working.
Looking at Iceland, default was the correct path. Yes, that makes things terribly bad. But now Iceland is getting back to solid footing. Simply smoothing the situation over with inflated money supplies is not a fix. Devaluation and Deflation from the 80s, 90s, and thru 2006 is necessary.
once in that state of mind you can think clearly about the simple acts of survival ... working on bunker supplies, practicing with your concealed carry and pistol-grip pump shotgun, storing up gold eagles and the lead ammo to protect them .... forewarned is forearmed ....
Some people sound as if they are actually wishing for this to happen.
While being better prepared might produce a higher survivability chance, I'd really rather not be in the situation.
Better practice your farming skills as well. Of course, for most of us, we'll have to migrate out of the cities to get some farm land. Where of course, there won't be any. Because even in the event of a collapse, you'll have military forces running around running things their own way. I'm sure they will laugh at that concealed handgun while staring down with 50 cals.
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