Heading for the fiscal cliff

If Obama insists on having the rich pay just "a little bit more", whatever else he proposes is DOA. Boehner and the rest will be standing strong as the "cliff" is approached. Obama won, as he liked to tell people during his first term, but the days of his trying to bully the Republicans into submission are over. After all, what do we have to lose?

Ready for this......I work for a contractor supporting a gov't agency. I am middle aged and have been told by numerous civil servants they are taking a gov't buyout prior to a Jan 31st, 2013 cutoff. The buyout includes them starting to recieve thier full pension when they accept the buyout. Here is the kicker, the individuals I know taking this aren't even my age (less than 50).

 

YOU cannot run the gov't like a union. I am tired of providing pensions for CS's when they are also offerd optional retirement plans (401ks, etc,) like the normal Joe. Not one of our elected officials, nor media outlets will talk about this issue.

 

Gov't agency's total salary info is public information. Check it out and you will see where all our tax dollars are going. The gov't calls these funds "Economic Impact."

 

 

hell i being over the cliff for 5 years.

I have Zero faith in Obammer, or congress in its entirety to resolve  anything before Jan 1st.  They still have to get in  their Thanksgiving and Christmas Holidays......

No faith at all.

I have read the majority of the comments here....both from Obama supporters and from the Romney supporters. Personally, I think all of them are bs! Here's the thing people..... the truth is that we simply have had irresponsible politicians for years. It isn't Bush's fault just like it isn't Obama's fault. Look in the mirror and this is the reality of what you see: WE THE PEOPLE have elected people ( career politicians ) who simply have been fiscally irresponsible with OUR money we have paid in the form of taxes etc. You can't possibly believe that one figure in the government is responsible for this mess. Their cabinets and boards and committees ( yes both Democratic and Republican ) have pissed away your hard earned tax dollars on such things as whatever they think will bring the federal dollars to their own pet projects...for example..... one of our local congressmen wanted a Customs office at the local general airport here in Central Florida at a cost of 1.7 million dollars to handle incoming international flights ( like we have a lot of those with the Orlando and Sanford airports within 20 mins flight time of here ). He got it after agreeing to sign off on the "obamacare plan ". To date there have been exactly 38 flights that have used this particular office.... meanwhile the staffing and expense of operating it continue to grow each year. You want dumb... or dumber? Ok.... under the current fiscal plan local governments have to use it or lose it! So..... our local government uses it ( $585,000 ) for "highway improvements"... and what are these highway improvements????? They planted new sod and tress in a i/2 mile stretch of 441..... Think this through people.... we are but one of 50,000 like same drawers from the well. The deficit is due in fact to government wasted spending.... period! The current political party holding office wants even more but the real bitch is that the other side will eventually go along with some form of the idea AS LONG AS THEIR POCKETS GET LINED! I don't mena this in the personal sense of the statement..... they are signing off on bad ideas as long as their own bad idea gets funded.... understand now? The real problem is the general public is out there pointing fingers at the other party while their own party is equally to blame. Young people get it they think.... and yet when you ask them one question: How are WE ALL going to pay for every program... their standard answer is "the government pays for it" Holy crap... these are our college educated young adults..... Ask yourself one question..... how do we pay for this mess???? And before you post some finger pointing bullcrap on here about how it's Bush's fault or Obama's fault of "somebody eles's fault"..... so some real non biased research..... you are going to be STUNNED! Our government needs to be downsized..... we can do that by defining what the 10 most important jobs the government must perform....for example: defense, healthcare, roads and transportation, welfare etc. Once defined by this country as a whole..... fit the government to the size of those jobs. Anything else above and beyond is subject to the availablity of funds ( kind of like a debit card INSTEAD of a credit card ). Mandate that we can't spend more than we take in..... and take a responsible approach to other things like our world grants and aid, space programs, and fiscal bailouts and other forms of spending. I didn't vote for Obama.... but I'm not blaming him for the mess just like I didn't blame Bush.... I am blaming myself and 200 plus million more people of this country for our lack of reasonable thought before voting.

Now you will see a quick exodus of more billionaires from America to countries that don't punish people for getting ahead.  The "Tax the rich" is a joke and won't ad any measurable money to our President's  "Spend like a drunken sailor policy".  Time to pay the piper Obama.  You bought the election but your going to be President when the economy slides back to 2008 levels and no one is going to buy your excuses and blame game except ... well,  we know who lives by excuses and blame.  Poor me poor me.. Pour me another.   Just keep printin that money fool.  Of course he will just blame the Republicans and Blame the rich..  Blame Blame Blame.. it's all this guy can do.  Typical.

Government : the most powerful organized crime group in a country at a given time

Let's have the economy run by the unions.

What people are missing is the tax cuts came from BUSH's term, NOT Obama's.  He spend the surplus that was obtained through Clinton's term.  The spending was a result of the not one, but two wars BUSH got the country into.  By the way where are those weapons of mass destruction, Obama haters....I'll wait.  Yeah, that what I thought, there were none!   The whole point of the matter is that we are in a place where the government budget needs to be balanced and so does individual budgets.  Everyone needs to cut spending.  Cable, iPAD's, the new iPhone, etc are luxury items...they are not needed.  Those who are wise will tighten their belts and do what needs to be done to survive.   Others will continue to tear down Obama.