12/6/2011 8:16 PM ET|
How Europe's crisis hits the US
The eurozone's woes may seem distant, but they will likely make money more expensive, slow economic growth and deepen our pessimism about the future.
It's hard to list the damages that the euro debt crisis has inflicted on Europe. Not because the effects are subtle -- they're not -- but because the list is so long.
There's austerity in Greece and Portugal that likely means a decade of no growth and falling living standards. There are budget cuts in Spain and Italy that might be enough to get the economies there growing again -- two or three years from now -- but in the meantime mean cuts in wages and pensions. There is the collapse of banks such as Spain's regional cajas and the French/Belgian Dexia -- and the general weakness in European banks that is translating into fewer loans and slower growth. There's the . . . well, you get the idea.
Putting together a list of the damage from the eurozone debt crisis in the United States is harder -- the list is just about as long, but some effects are likely to be hidden or delayed. For example, an immediate effect of the crisis has been a rally in U.S. Treasurys that has driven interest rates down to historical lows.
A good thing, right? In the near term, yes, but not if it delays the day the U.S. starts to deal with its own debt problems and leads to a buildup of debt on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve.
So, yes, putting together a list of the effects of the European debt crisis on the United States is difficult. But it's important, because looking at the crisis from a U.S. perspective tells us a lot about what we can expect from the U.S. and global markets and economies over the next five to 10 years. And the picture likely includes slow growth and a lot of frustration.
Making money more expensive
I'd divide the U.S. effects of the eurozone debt crisis into three categories: inside-baseball effects, clearly visible systemic effects and long-term psychological effects.
Inside-baseball effects on the financial markets will make money more expensive -- and economic growth slower.
I don't expect that most of us will notice this type of damage -- it's inside baseball, so the damage is apparent only to those who play deeply inside the game. But it might be the most significant in the middle term, because it is this kind of change that constitutes the most likely mechanism for translating the eurozone debt crisis to the U.S. financial system.
Remember how during the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy and the 2008 global financial crisis the big worry was that contracts in the derivatives market might take down a big financial institution such as JPMorgan Chase (JPM, news) or American International Group (AIG, news)? That fear, indeed, was the key reason for the taxpayer bailout of American International. Nobody knew exactly how much "insurance" the company had extended to other financial institutions, and no one knew what the effect of the failure of American International might be on those other institutions. Banks and other financial companies thousands of miles away from the New York epicenter of the crisis might fail if they were counting on derivatives contracts with American International on the other end to insure them against loss.
The inability of financial regulators and financial markets to figure out who might be holding the bag was the reason that post-Lehman financial reforms invested so much rhetoric into trying to move at least part of the derivatives market from private, institution-to-institution agreements to derivative contracts traded on at least somewhat transparent public markets.
Now the eurozone debt crisis has brought the workings of the derivative markets back onto center stage by calling into question the viability of derivatives to act as insurance against default. At issue is a derivative known as a credit default swap. As the possibility of defaulting on their debt increased for the governments of Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain and Italy, investors in the sovereign debt of those countries used credit default swaps as a way to lay off part of that risk.
But you'd have to question the value of any insurance that didn't pay off in a crisis, wouldn't you? And that's exactly what's happening right now in the Greek debt crisis. Although banks and other holders of Greek bonds are being "asked" to accept a 50% reduction on the value of their bonds, the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, the group that makes the call on when credit default swaps are triggered, has so far decided that the 50% loss on Greek government bonds doesn't allow the buyers of this insurance to collect, since the loss is voluntary.
Voluntary? Well, I guess breathing is voluntary since I could decide to stop. I'm sure that this ruling is producing a massive rethinking of the value of derivatives in laying off bond-market risk.
And the upshot of that is likely to lead to bond buyers demanding higher yields to compensate for the risk that they now don't think they can lay off quite so easily or certainly. This means more expensive money -- and that's not good for economic growth in any part of the world.
VIDEO ON MSN MONEY
It is the nature of humans to go along as usual until the fecal matter hits the rotating oscillator, or as Niall Ferguson puts it "you go along and you're okay...until you're not.". The problem for us is that we will print dollars and throw them into a Euro-black-hole until they have no value. It's like drawing a bath with the drain open. You run the water faster and the tub starts to fill, but doesn't fill enough, by the time you realize there's a problem. You've run out of hot water.
Now what, still of the same. Imagine if we didn't bail them out. We would have had a recession but by now we would have been out of it.
Are you sure about that? Every expert I've heard about said we avoided a depression that would have collapsed the entire planet. Could you imagine what it would be like if there was a run on the banks and the government had to pay out every depositor's savings up to $250,000? And what about retirement accounts? They lost about 40% of their value WITH the bailout. How would a loss of 80% feel like accross America. No savings, no jobs, no banks, no credit. Then, no companies, no jobs at all, deflation, and the government trying to stop that freight train.
You can't imagine.....ask someone who went thru the depression.....it was not fun at all.
If I put the moves on another woman the only peace at my house would be the piece of my flesh that my wife would have on a spit. I guess Superman won't be on the ballot after all. Thanks for the kudos. I try to educate and at least get people away from the idea that you always must invest where your broker tells you to invest. In 2008 a lot of people found out why they're called brokers and not richers.
The only way out of this mess is government debt forgiveness. Print money to buy government bonds and then burn the bonds. Yes, it will cause inflation, which is like a tax on everyone,Agree 100%. That's how we moved from $30,000 houses to $300,000 houses and $3,000 cars to $30,000 cars. In 1970 dollars our debt is $1.4 trillion. We're in a monopoly game with the number of players ever increasing so the supply of money must also increase even if prices go up. Germany's afraid of what happened before WWI and II and rightfully so if not controlled correctly.
Ever hear of the 'earned income credit'? It's a several thousand dollar bailout that goes to the poor and middle class EACH and EVERY year! Yep. The US government gives thousands of dollars to each and every American family that has children each year. straight welfare given to half the country. Course, I'm sure you somehow think you 'earned' my tax dollars though, don't you?
And isn't it a bit hypocritical to talk about other people being greedy while trying to get something that isn't yours?
The problem in the U.S. , the Eurozone , and Japan are all the same problem. The policymakers are guided by Keynesian economists. The Keynesian economists believe in a multiplier effect for government spending. If you check the math that Keynes used you will find that there is no multiplier after you correct Keynes' errors.
This is why (without a radical change in policy) the Euro, the dollar, and the yen are all doomed. It's only a matter of time.
Sigh... Let the Europeans pay their own debts. They ran them up with their socialist spending, and now the bill is due. The banks in Europe would not be in trouble except that the governments there are deadbeats.
Are we far behind with the Donkey Party's Tax, Spend, Borrow and Debase policies? This will not end well.
Socialism is big failure or a disaster and will work only for countries like Kuwait , Brunei which has lots of natural resources and very low population but not for countries like Greece and Italy , leave alone Big countries like US etc. The lesser the Government size and hold on economy the better it is for the economy.
It would be fair to describe also the effect of the US crisis and debt on Europe and the rest of the world
Copyright © 2013 Microsoft. All rights reserved.
Quotes are real-time for NASDAQ, NYSE and AMEX. See delay times for other exchanges.
Fundamental company data and historical chart data provided by Thomson Reuters (click for restrictions). Real-time quotes provided by BATS Exchange. Real-time index quotes and delayed quotes supplied by Interactive Data Real-Time Services. Fund summary, fund performance and dividend data provided by Morningstar Inc. Analyst recommendations provided by Zacks Investment Research. StockScouter data provided by Verus Analytics. IPO data provided by Hoover's Inc. Index membership data provided by SIX Financial Information.
[BRIEFING.COM] Stocks entered the weekend on a mixed note as the S&P 500 shed 0.1% while the Dow ended with a gain of 0.1%.
The major averages began the day on a lower note as nine of ten sectors saw losses of more than 0.5%.
The consumer staples sector was the lone exception as the group spent the entire day in positive territory thanks to the relative strength of Dow component Procter & Gamble (PG 81.89, +3.19). The second-largest staple stock advanced ... More
More Market News
|There’s a problem getting this information right now. Please try again later.|