11/29/2012 8:30 PM ET|
Stocks need a big fiscal cliff deal
Washington' squabbles and kicking the can down the road will only add to volatility. What the market really needs to see is a grand bargain on spending and debt.
Whatever agreement Congress reaches on the so-called fiscal cliff, the best deal for stocks will be one that provides a stable plan to reduce the deficit, according to market strategists.
Granted, that's easier said than done, but drawn-out uncertainty over what the rules will be in the new year -- for both businesses and individual taxpayers -- has been one of the biggest impediments to economic growth.
Depending on the source of your figures, the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts set to kick in on Jan. 1 are expected to yield $500 billion to $700 billion to trim the deficit. Recently, The Wall Street Journal estimated the automatic spending cuts will raise $136 billion and tax hikes will yield $532 billion for a total of $668 billion, or 4% of GDP.
Among the many scenarios tossed around is the so-called "grand bargain," where the deficit would be reduced by $4 trillion over 10 years through more taxes, less spending and entitlement reform in programs like Medicare and Social Security.
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Some sort of agreement is key to stocks, however. Political squabbling and stock market volatility go hand in hand, as was seen during the fight over the debt ceiling in the summer of 2011, when the CBOE Market Volatility Index (VIX) , or so-called "fear index," lived above the 25 mark for more than a quarter.
A reasonable best-case scenario for stocks would be a grand bargain that spreads out the pain over 10 to 20 years, and comes in at just under $4 trillion in tax hikes and spending cuts, said Dan Greenhaus, chief global strategist at BTIG.
But don't expect any deals before the new year; such a notion is "utterly fanciful," he said. What's more likely to happen is some sort of down payment in the near term with Republicans yielding on some $30 billion to $40 billion in tax increases spread out over the next 10 years in exchange for the same amount in immediate spending cuts, Greenhaus said.
"Republicans are unmovable on tax rates as Democrats are on the retirement age for Medicare," said Greenhaus. "Those are sacrosanct."
Congress will likely take some "path of least resistance" that extends some Bush-era tax cuts and cancels some scheduled spending cuts, said Jeff Kleintop, the chief market strategist at LPL Financial. But it will take a firm commitment from leaders and not another Band-Aid to instill confidence in the stock market.
"If there was ever a time to enact long-term fiscal discipline, now is the time," said Kleintop.
Keeping it volatile
The fiscal cliff is only part of the problem. The debt ceiling will have to be raised again either in February or March and the U.S. still faces the threat of additional credit downgrades in 2013, he added. Given that, a best-case scenario for stocks would be a firm agreement to reduce the deficit by about $2 trillion over the next 10 years via cuts to entitlement spending and defense and about $800 billion in tax increases, Kleintop said.
Even though $2 trillion falls short of the $4 trillion that's being tossed about and corporate earnings would likely suffer for a few quarters, such a compromise would signal real progress toward fiscal stability and likely trigger a rally of up to 25% in stocks for 2013, Kleintopsaid. The chances of that happening, however, are about 10% to 15%, he added said.
A long, drawn-out negotiation into next year to resolve issues related to tax hikes and spending cuts isn't going to be the end of the world, but it will keep the stock market volatile, said Bill Stone, the chief investment strategist at PNC Wealth Management.
Remember, the fiscal cliff measures were byproducts of a resolution to the 2011 debt-ceiling fight intended to avoid a credit downgrade -- which happened anyway when Standard & Poor's saw the stopgap plans as not good enough to maintain the United States’ triple-A rating.
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Deal, no deal. Does it really mean anything anymore? What does it mean to have a debt ceiling that only gets raised and funded by phony funny money printed by the Fed every time the central government and their Wall Street masters need more? It's all about manipulation of the monetary system to rob Peter and pay Paul. That's all there is to it in the end. Look at the European Union and the number of so-called deals they have struck in the last two years. To what end? Are our socio(pathic) political based budget deals really that much different in scope than theirs?
Maybe a deal means something to Wall Street. I means nothing to Main Street.
Someone made this comment on a post of mine the other day, sorry I forget your name and I am too lazy to go back and check but if you are reading this you get all credit, it is a scary thought but could be true;
What if the cliff is the deal..........
Both sides can make it seem like they didn't give in.......
When you think about is there a deal that will hurt less then this? Tax increases, spending cuts, and military cuts, no matter how you slice them they will hurt so really is there a deal taht they could reach that is going to be better then this?
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Obama administration cut backroom deals with the nation’s top drug companies to win support for President Obama’s health care overhaul, threatening them with steeper taxes if they resisted and promising a better financial deal for the industry if they acquiesced
Obama agreed to drop his long-standing support for letting Americans buy cheaper foreign prescription drugs— something the pharmaceutical industry vehemently opposed — and the drugmakers promised to mount a public campaign to sell the public on the health care legislation.
The threats appeared to work, and the parties met the next month to hammer out a final deal. The drug companies agreed to pay higher Medicaid rebates and a new health care reform fee to raise $80 billion for the legislation, and promised to run positive television ads about it.
In exchange, thegave them direct input into the new policies and promised to let them continue to set their own drug prices
the Whitehouse bypassed members of its own party to iron out specific details with the drug companies.
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