8/23/2011 1:01 PM ET|
What’s B of A's problem now?
Just 3 years after the bailouts, the biggest US banks are seeing their stocks dive anew. Are they still sick, or are they good buys in a struggling market?
Even if you can barely stand to watch the market these days, you've probably noticed that Bank of America (BAC, news) has been getting pounded like it's 2008 again. Rival giants Citigroup (C, news) and JPMorgan Chase (JPM, news) are falling as well, along with a lot of other financial-sector stocks.
Among the reasons for this rout: fear that European bank woes will spread to U.S. banks, lawsuits from investors holding mortgage-backed securities that blew up, and the threat of a new global recession.
It's been three years since taxpayers bailed out the banks after the credit meltdown, and it seems the Big Three U.S. banks aren't out of the woods yet. They never regained the stock value they lost in the financial meltdown. And they're melting down again.
The question facing investors now is this: Have the latest losses given us another chance to buy the stocks of these financial giants at bargain prices -- or are these banks so troubled they can't be fixed?
I'm in the 'bargain' camp. Here's why.
Where the big banks stand
Let's start with the key takeaway: As hard as the market has been on financial companies, taking them down much further than stocks as a whole, this isn't 2008. Banks, for the most part, are far stronger than they were going into the credit meltdown in 2007. And in fact, if you go through investor fears one by one, you can make the case that most of them are overblown.
I'm focusing this column on B of A because it's the biggest U.S. bank and the loss leader, down 57% since January highs of $15.31. It's lost 35% in just the past month. But Citigroup is down 48% from its highs this year, and JPMorgan Chase is off 30%. So they should be asked the same questions.
The two latter banks do have some advantages. Counting the bailout and other efforts, both got more government support than Bank of America during the credit meltdown. JPMorgan Chase in particular limited its exposure to the mortgage problem at the heart of that crisis.
Bank of America, on the other hand, took on added exposure during the crisis when it purchased Countrywide Financial and Merrill Lynch. Countrywide was a large mortgage originator, and Merrill Lynch was one of the biggest vendors of mortgage-backed securities. So B of A remains very exposed to risky home mortgages and a weak real-estate market.
But B of A's stock has also been beaten up the most of late, suggesting that it might offer the most potential for investors. Investing sometimes works that way.
I'm not the only one who thinks that these stocks look interesting. I talked with several financial sector money managers recently, and many believe the current selling has gone too far. "We think they are attractively valued today," says Ryan Lentell, senior research officer at Manulife Asset Management. "We think they are cheap for long-term investors." Manulife Asset Management manages the John Hancock Financial Industries Fund (FIDAX).
Veteran banking sector expert William Isaac is also bullish on bank stocks overall. "If you believe that our political leaders are going to get their act together and fix the fiscal crisis, and your time horizon is three or four years, I would think that banks are about as good a buy as you can get right now," he says. Isaac was director of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in the early 1980s, another tumultuous time for the banking sector. He's now senior managing director of FTI Consulting, a financial services sector consulting firm.
Here's a look at the problems these banks face -- and why the worries may be overblown.
Catching the Euro-flu
One of the major fears about the large U.S. banks is that they'll get dragged into the mess in Europe. Among the big risks: They might be exposed via lending to and contracts with troubled European banks or by holding shaky European government debt. Another major risk is that capital markets might freeze up again if big European banks go under.
Several top-rated money managers I talked to discount these risks.
First, the so-called counterparty risk resulting from business with European banks seems small. "We don't know for sure, but it does not look like it is significant," says Michael Yoshikami, the CEO and founder of YCMNET Advisors, ranked among the top 100 independent financial advisers by Baron's.
Second, says Lentell, at Manulife Asset Management, the exposure of the Big Three U.S. banks to European debt "is small compared to size of their balance sheets."
Meanwhile, U.S. banks have strengthened their balance sheets and lowered their exposure to short-term funding problems since the crisis, suggesting they can weather a temporary freeze in the capital markets.
Fending off the lawyers
Bank of America is being sued regularly by investors, racking up big losses on mortgage-related investments built on home loans originated by Countrywide Financial and repackaged by Merrill Lynch. "Obviously, there aren't many days that I get up and think positively about the Countrywide transaction in 2008," Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan said in a recent conference call with investors.
On top of this, attorneys general across the country are suing Bank of America for questionable foreclosure practices.
These kinds of suits grab headlines and scare investors. They may continue to cost Bank of America billions, and they're a big reason the bank's stock has stayed down.
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They deserve everything ill that happens to them. Even today they still hold on to large reserves and refuse to loosen credit in spite of the monies afforded these greedy mongrels. They'll probably have the audacity to ask for another bailout.
Sooner than later American greedyations will realize that downsizing to regain profits and working their employees to death is done. You can't squeeze water from a rock, or blood
from a dollar.
It's time to produce, and to produce goods and services that the WORLD really needs.
It's time to end NAFTA and bring American manufacturing jobs home. Period!
All I know is that I own BOA stock. I am not happy with the performance and will be voting against the Board of Directors when the time comes.
They took bail-out money, our tax dollars. They are part of the reason we are in the mess we are in. They were giving loans to anyone, even if they did not qualify. That is one of the main reasons we are in the shape we are in. They are greedy jerks.
Another big reason we are in the shape we are in, is because of Congress. We should limit Congresses terms and power.
Said it before.. I'll say it again.
4.4 BILLION dollars in just BONUSES paid to the top PIGS at BOA in 2010. Not salaries, dividends... BONUSES.
Average of $440,000 per employee who received a bonus.
And they have to let 3500 people go? Why? They are not cash starved if they can pay out 4.4 BILLION dollars in bonuses last year.
Do you realize that 4.4 BILLION dollars would provide JOBS for 10,000 people at $44,000 a year for 10 YEARS. And they paid that in BONUSES to their top PIGS last year.
I left BOA. I got tired of getting $.03 in interest each month on an account with $3500 in it while they gave all of their money (that they won't LEND to ANYONE) to their FAT PIGS. Credit Union is paying me $.82 per month on the SAME MONEY. Yes, don't look at the "WHOA, a whopping 79 cents per month." Look at the 2700% MORE in interest they pay.
FAIL BOA. FAIL BOA. FAIL BOA.
If I file bankruptcy, I lose my assets (house). If BOA files bankruptcy, do they lose THEIR assets (mortgage holdings?)
BOA sick and a good buy>
the Article shoud have been
BOA IS Sick and Good-bye!
Just remember some of us did not want our tax dollars given to bail out the banks... that was someone elses idea. They should have let them die in 2008. Others will take their place and hopefully would have learned from BOA mistakes.
Now that they are down and out looking for another hand out its time to think... they wasted and abused the last hand out, let's give them the axe and get on with it
Two words.. Community Bank. I switched about 5 years ago and will never go back to one of the big boys. Lower fees, friendlier staff, and WOW a bank that actually cares about their customers, and actually makes loans to people and small business. What novel concepts!!
B of A is the leader in fees charged to their customers, the pound the little guy while giving their executive people outrageous perks, let them fall completely the country would be better without them- USE YOUR LOCAL CREDIT UNIONS THERE FAR BETTER FOR SERVICE AND BANK FEES!!
B of A remains very exposed to risky home mortgages and a weak real-estate market.
Here’s what’s happening two blocks down the street I live on. A seven year old 3,000 sf home overlooking the 8th fairway of a beautiful golf community was just abandoned by its owners who recently purchased a nearby condo for cash. As you probably guessed, it’s a strategic default. The home is underwater and the owners have lost all faith that its market value will ever again meet or exceed their mortgage balance. You probably also guessed that the holder of the mortgage is BAC. Now, I get to watch the weeds grow in the yard and the home fall into ruin as BAC dances around for 18 months trying to collect on their loan; a process which will eventually result in foreclosure and a fire sale of the property, depressing home prices throughout my entire community. In other words, now BAC’s problem is my problem too. Thanks BAC. Thanks Mr. Dirt-Bag neighbor. Thanks to everyone who is dumping their financial problems on those who followed common sense money management and basic principles of finance and who are now paying the price for those who didn’t.
It could not have happened to a more deserving corporation. The Bank that F#@KED America! Basically BFA was found guilty of causing the housing crash after receiving a massive government bailout to cover their losses during the crash that they caused. Nice...
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