Who's hiring (and what they pay)

The US has now regained more than four-fifths of the 8.8 million jobs lost in the private sector during the last recession. But it has a long way to go.

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Sep 12, 2013 8:13PM

Regained 4/5s of the lost jobs.  Lets put this in perspective shall we?  Because all jobs are not equal.  When FULL TIME jobs were lost in 2008, to be replaced by part time, near minimum wage jobs now, the jobs were not regained on a 1:1 ratio wrt people who found their way back into employment.


This is because people who worked a full time job in 2008, are now in many cases having to work 2 or 3 part time jobs, just to get by.  180,000 new jobs, does NOT mean 180,000 people who didn't have jobs, now have jobs.  With many working 2-3 jobs a piece, the number of people who returned to work, could be approaching half that figure.  And that isn't even addressing some of the deeper issues such as what their spending power is now, vs before, against the general shift in wages and/or benefits, nor does it address the actual working situation people are in, having to pull double or triple shifts, on multiple jobs, just to begin to approximate the quality of life they had before (to a lesser extent).  It also doesn't touch on inflation, for which the CPI leaves some sources of inflation out of the equation (most notably food prices)...  There's a lot the article leaves out, while trying to make everything look so much improved and better in the here and now.

Sep 12, 2013 9:59PM
$13.58 per hour for retail jobs??? WHAT are they SMOKING??? Try more like $8 an hour!!
Sep 12, 2013 9:50PM

This is a worthless article.


What recovery!!


Recall our government, as well as their pay and benefits.

Sep 12, 2013 8:47PM
Only the truly naive believe the government spin on "job growth".  Most new jobs are service related (notoriously low paying), and new jobs are often part time or provide few or no benefits.  Decent paying jobs, like the middle class, are a dying breed.  Unless you are a professional person or a legislator (usually millionaires already), learn to live on much, much less.  The "American dream" is dead for all but the ultra rich. 
Sep 12, 2013 10:48PM
My husband has been out of work for over 2 years now. When he gets hired, that's when the recession is over.
Sep 13, 2013 1:08AM
Where is the world did they come up with these inflated salaries?  Who in retail or service is making more than $10 an hour.  If the writers don't even know that fact, how can they be right on anything?
Sep 12, 2013 8:48PM
So 25 and up is high paying?  Suuurrrre....   $1000+ rent while trying to save for a 250k mortgage, SL debt, Food, auto, heaven forbid there's a kid to pay for...    GO RECOVERY!!   GO SHI7 MATH!!!
Sep 12, 2013 11:15PM
With union membership at an all time low of 11 percent ( this includes government workers) Labor has effectively had their balls cut off. American workers are at the mercy of their employers and receive nothing extra when profits soar and productivity rises. All profits go to just a few at the very top. I didn't think I would live to see the day when American workers, who were once proud and defiant, would turn into groveling slaves begging for mercy. The propaganda brought forth by business interests, masquerading as economic facts has created a nation of kool aid sippers, eager to turn against each other much to the delight of their corporate masters.
Sep 13, 2013 8:03AM
Really?  I'm still waiting for the recovery.  The only thing I see are part time jobs and the workforce being depleted by people just giving up.  What recovery?
Sep 12, 2013 10:53PM
Clearly some groups are doing extremely well as Luxury Autos have been setting year after year after year sale RECORDS in North America. I have never seen so many folks driving new Mercedes, Audi, and BMWs. And it's not just leases either.

Concerning Job Creation, before the financial Crisis the Service Sector was the biggest boom area. And that's still the case after. Now however, China plays an even bigger factor. Corporations in America are using that Leverage to reduce workers pay here while at the same time demanding far more production. That's the big difference some folks refuse to talk about. How many folks have been asked to take less pay  while Corporations are setting yearly Record Profits and Cash Hoards. Top Brass get's far more, you get far less. Now that's the real problem.

Companies have been outsourcing American jobs abroad. To truly put that in perspective, they are now saying take what will we give you and DARE you to question anything. And guess what, most don't have the stones to question the New World Order and wise up to do something about it.

Sep 13, 2013 12:09AM
Recovery, what "recovery"?  So, the Obama administration, with help from the liberal media, announces some  four years ago that we are now in a "recovery" and the lemmings lap it up like pablum......If you call this a "recovery" then you are simply dimwitted!

Sep 12, 2013 9:41PM
Just spin. The jobs that require actual skills are inhabited by alumni who don't possess those skills. The skilled have had to start small businesses suppressed or squeezed by platforms or take jobs well below their skill level. Forcing qualified people to try to survive at destitution pay is NOT a recovery. Twitter is about to IPO... it single-handedly is the tool of fool colluders causing the job blockade. Until we restore freedom in America-- recovery is not remotely possible.
Sep 12, 2013 8:39PM
Until Corporate America pays wages in silver or gold coins, my fellow workers will be forced to accept pay in the form of fiat dollars that are worth about 3 cents each.

Too bad the majority of you reading this don't have a clue to what I'm talking about.

Sep 12, 2013 11:04PM
The Ya-ho-ooo CEO was interview on Cable TV today and I sat there and listened to her talk about her job. She basically admitted she doesn't do much daily. Of course she stated it's those every one in a blue moon big decision she makes that's the game changer. REALLY? She basically stated the Company runs itself, shocked any CEO would even reveal that obvious truth. Her only  out was the Big Moments that comes rarely.

Fact is, Yahoo is benefiting from the past sale of assets and the potential windfall of future sales of the same asset. Which by the way, was there long before you got there. Some folks continually pump up the Barking Dogs that most companies wouldn't even notice if they never came back to work.

Sep 13, 2013 10:11AM
Wow - are these salaries off - I am an engineer and MSN simply does not know what they are talking about. Hmmmm  what else is new?
Sep 13, 2013 8:35AM

Another example of journalism gone bad...engineers making what - 23 bucks a hour?


Hey kids, can MSN as a reputable news source. Engineers are making between 25-75 a hour depending on experience (meaning tine in profession and not those stupid master degree programs the academic trolls sucked you into).


Get your engineering degree, can the MBA and Masters crap, get 8-10 years of practical experience and you will make the money much higher than the figures quoted in this article.


MSN - is this the best you can do in your profession?

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