3/7/2012 3:16 PM ET|
Will home prices fall 20% more?
How far down?
Michelle Meyer at Bank of America Merrill Lynch is looking for an additional 8% drop in home prices through the end of the first quarter next year, assuming the economy remains buoyant. That also assumes that the foreclosure overhang remains tolerable with an additional 8 million homes liquidated by the end of 2015.
The scary thing is Meyer's model is extremely sensitive to shifts in both the amount of housing inventory and the number of distressed foreclosure properties being sold. Her downside scenario, which would see prices drop an additional 20%, is based on inventory jumping to nearly 12 months' of supply by 2013. According to Rosenberg's calculations, we may already be close to that level.
An additional 20% decline would put the cumulative, post-bubble home price drop at 46% and return home prices to levels last seen in 2000. And the risk is that this weakness becomes self-sustaining, since additional home price weakness would pressure the banks to further tighten mortgage lending, pressure household spending via reduced wealth, and pressure the government via increased budget deficits as economic activity slowed.
So not only is the housing market far from "safe" by any traditional definition of the word, it's very likely that a double-dip in home prices could slam the brakes on an already feeble recovery.
Glimmers of hope?
It's not all black and blue. For one, any new recession would suffer a smaller drag from housing since construction activity is already low -- and is, in fact, rebounding because of rising demand for multifamily and apartment units. After all, people still need places to live even if they can't or don't want to be homeowners. And that explains why rental rates are now rising around 2.5% a year as vacancies fall.
(My motivation for buying was how this impacted the affordability of owning a home versus renting.)
The other over-the-horizon positive that should eventually stabilize home prices is simple human nature. Americans like to reproduce. And foreigners still want to immigrate to our shores. This demographic tail wind will keep demand for housing units on the rise.
Meyers quantifies this by looking at the household formation rate. It's been depressed lately as 20- and 30-somethings move back in with Mom and Dad and homes become increasingly multigenerational out of necessity. In a normal environment, around 1.2 million households are created each year. But in the past four years, this pace has slowed to just 500,000.
It isn't sustainable without a major cultural shift. We're the land of open spaces, SUVs that could double as urban warfare vehicles, value meals, and unshared bathrooms. And as people move out, they'll be on the prowl for cut-rate McMansions of their own.
Overall, Meyer's home price model shows home prices turning higher in 2014 (after overshooting to the downside) and returning to fair valuation by 2019.
That means the current excitement amounts to little more than another false dawn. Back in January 2010, Wall Street was looking for housing starts to average 1 million in 2011. But the actual pace was about 600,000. This year, initial forecasts were for 900,000 versus 700,000 now. Eventually, perception will catch up to reality as widespread investor pessimism sets the stage for an upside surprise in two years' time.
But we're not there yet.
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There is no housing "crisis". Home prices were too high and needed to correct. Doesn't matter how, why, or anything else - just a simple fact. AND - being upside down in a house does not impact your ability to pay for it. It may limit your flexibility, but if you could afford your note in 2006 you should be able to afford it now - all other things being equal. If you can't afford it - then you probably can't afford being sued for not paying it either.
AND - all these financial articles comparing today to some "peak" several years back are irrelevant. The "peak", whether housing prices, wages, employment rates, car sales, tax collections, ... was a debt fueled, artificial, unsustainable bubble. It was not real. The concerning thing is that the current stagnant state is also being supported by unsustainable government borrowing and intervention. What does the "real" equilibrium look like?
Finally, an honest appraisal of the housing market. I’ve been nauseated by all the rosy articles over the past couple of years claiming the housing market had hit bottom and was set for a rebound. They were obviously written by those with a vested interest in encouraging buyers (like realtor groups). Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
As a scientist, I checked the data afterwards to see if those rosy articles were right or at least close to right. Nope. The housing market fell another 5-10 percent within months of every such article. Homes are still listed in many markets for 10-20 percent more than what they eventually sell for. Don’t take my word for it – the data is out there. I don’t always agree with Anthony’s articles, but this one is spot on.
We have the 535 morons in D.C. to thank for the failing housing/economy. Bush warned congress about Freddie and Fannie back at the turn of the century. Banking and Finance committees (Franks
and Dodd) ignored all that and look what there is to deal with now !!
Off coarse the strike down of the"Glass-Stegall Act - 1933" didn't help matters at all (look it up on google) and Clinton along with Phil Graham championed it's demise in 1999.
Do we get a break for their mistakes ? Did we ? I'm paying more taxes today and even more on the way i.e. 3.5% of all real estate transactions starting after the 2012 elections, hidden in Obamacare.
We are being taxed to death and the money is being given away/mis-managed, grossly mis-managed, it's down right criminal.
I think the "Donald" said it best " never trust a politician to make a business decision".....
In this Economy and Jobless environment . Prices MUST Fall. Or everyone will be living in apartments paying the SAME amount that a mortgage is. The Days of Putting FALSE income, Non Verified Buyers on loan applications is over. The ONLY Reason why the housing went nuts and everyone was flipping in 5 years and doubling their money, is because the Fantasy that was Sub Prime, and now Caught with its Pants Down and the Reality that homes increase a mere 3 to 5% a year is Back.
Wall street laughed and left us holding the Bag as their derivatives
and Naked Shorting Scam Worked
It was All a Ponzie Scheme but using Housing as a Schill
Welcome Realistic Pricing.
Welcome Reality. $ 2012
And no, the problems that existed four to five years ago haven't been resolved. Housing prices still have a long way to drop. There are still many years left for this mess.
Strom prophet "wrote" Really? Cause, as far as I can see Banks/Financial institutions made bets totaling more than 200 trillion dollars domestically.
And here you are blaming perhaps 1, maybe 2 trillion dollars of irresponsible home buying.
All i'm saying is you have to be responsible for your own money. If you think you are stretching your budget but you just have to have that house in the perfect neighborhood that has an inflated price just because it is in that certain neighborhood or close to a certain school you just screwed yourself. Try some self restraint people. I bought a fairly cheap house when i was young because i was only getting paid $12 an hour. Now i make $30 and hour and live in the same house that is paid for that i bought 16 years ago and do whatever i want because i didn't have the urge to upgrade and act like i am now better than the people in my neighborhood that mostly make alot less than me. If you have money problems because of your house payment it is YOUR fault. Just sayin.
House price has to fall to meet demand, income, and reality. Nobody wants to become mortgage slavery anymore. No more cheap credit.
Save money for raining days ahead.
No Job. No Money. No Health Insurance. No Honey. No Mortgage Slavery. No Taxes. No HOA. No Problem.
So when my home is worthless, the bank will have to cancel the mortgage, right?
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