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Stocks slide further as Obamacare is upheld

Shares are down more than 1% after the Supreme Court rules in favor of the health care reform law. Investor outlook darkens for this week's eurozone summit. New unemployment claims dip.

By TheStreet Staff Jun 28, 2012 9:06AM

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By Andrea Tse


Stocks fell Thursday as investor sentiment softened on a gloomy outlook for the eurozone summit and after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the core of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.


The ruling preserves most of a law that would expand insurance to millions of Americans, Bloomberg reported. The justices voted 5-4 in saying Congress can make people carry insurance or pay a penalty. The law also requires insurers to cover people with pre-existing health conditions, Bloomberg said. The court limited the law's extension of Medicaid by saying the government may not threaten to withhold money from states that don't fully comply.


The Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU) was down 130 points at 12,497. The S&P 500 ($INX) was down 13 points at 1,319. The Nasdaq Composite ($COMPX) was down 39 points at 2,836.

 

Stocks rose Wednesday, buoyed by better-than-expected reports on durable goods orders and pending home sales. The advance came ahead of what's now expected to be an essentially fruitless eurozone summit on Thursday and Friday.


"Expectations for the summit seem to be so low as to create the risk of a positive surprise," perhaps on banking integration, said Paul Donovan, a global economist with UBS. "However, there is also a credibility deficit around euro policy, so any surprise would need to overcome expectations and the credibility shortfall to prevent cynicism re-emerging."


"Europe continues to generate a great deal of heat but very little light," a Birinyi Associates report said. "While the Greek drama has slowed somewhat with their election, the crisis is far from over. Now Spanish banks are the concern d'jour while Italy and the fate of the Euro are right behind."


The stock market research firm noted that while it continues to be optimistic about the stock market, it also advises caution, as there are still too many variables that are beyond investors' capability to absorb and forecast.


Europe is one of them, as are the slowing U.S. economy and those of China, India and Brazil. Also of concern are more financial regulations after the JPMorgan Chase (JPM) and MF Global debacles, recent downgrades of banks by Moody's, and the disillusioning impact of the problem that plagued Facebook's (FB) initial public offering.


The FTSE in London was slipping 0.94%, and the DAX in Germany was sliding 1.64%. The Hong Kong Hang Seng index settled down by 0.79%, and the Nikkei in Japan closed ahead by 1.65%.


In U.S. economic news, the Labor Department reported that initial jobless claims for the week ended Jun. 23 fell by 6,000  to 386,000 from the previous week's upwardly revised figure of 392,000, foreshadowing weakness in the upcoming monthly jobs report. Economists were calling for initial claims of 385,000, according to Briefing.com.


The four-week moving average was 386,750, a decrease of 750 from the previous week's average of 387,500. Continuing claims for the week ended Jun. 16 were at 3.296 million, a decrease of 15,000 from the preceding week's level of 3.311 million.


First-quarter gross domestic product remained at 1.9%, as expected, according to a final read by the Commerce Department.


In corporate news, JPMorgan Chase's (JPM) trading loss related to hedging could total as much as $9 billion, The New York Times reported. CEO Jamie Dimon last month estimated that losses from the bad bet on credit derivatives could double within the next few quarters. But the losses have been mounting in recent weeks as the bank has been unwinding its positions, the Times reported, according to interviews with current and former traders and executives at the bank. The Times said JPMorgan is now out of more than half of the trade and may be completely free this year. JPMorgan will disclose part of the total losses on the hedging bet on July 13, when it reports second-quarter earnings.


The board of News Corp. (NWSA) unanimously approved a plan to split the media giant into two, separating its entertainment operations from its smaller publishing business. The split was formally announced early Thursday morning. One company will include entertainment businesses like 20th Century Fox, Fox broadcast network and Fox News Channel, while the other will encompass publishing assets such as The Wall Street Journal and HarperCollins book publishing.


Research In Motion (RIMM) is expected to post a fiscal-first-quarter loss of 1 cent a share for the three months ended in May on revenue of $3.11 billion. The BlackBerry maker will release earnings after the close. RIM last month said it expected to post an operating loss for the first quarter, citing "lower volumes and highly competitive pricing dynamics in the marketplace." The company has hired bankers to help it examine its strategic options.


Family Dollar (FDO) reported third-quarter net income of $124.5 million, or $1.06 a share, up from year-earlier earnings of $111.1 million, or 91 cents a share. On average, analysts were anticipating third-quarter profit of $1.07 a share. Family Dollar said it expects fourth-quarter same-store sales to rise between 5% and 7% and projects fourth-quarter earnings per share of between 71 cents and 81 cents a share. For the fourth quarter, analysts are expecting earnings of 77 cents a share.


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Jun 28, 2012 11:47AM
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 Stocks will probably not dive until Monday or Tuesday as any spin from the EU meeting dissolves over the weekend and they realize its tick tock tick tock until Greece runs out of cash and misses a loan payment before the end of July.  The commission is going to report back that  Greece has made little progress to fulfill its bailout obligations and that will be the straw that breaks the camel's back for Merkel. They will not get another euro from her
Jun 28, 2012 11:45AM
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"The Red State guvs-- the ones balking at mandated health insurance --are supporting the dude who invented it for Pres .I just don't understand the logic. Must be from some kind of alternate universe or 5th dimension."

Pretty sure that group got the call already that their $5 million bonus pensions sitting in the offshore Cayman Bank accounts are in jeopardy unless they don't jump around and make threats like good puppet government. Does anyone take a (R) Governor seriously today? New World Order took a big hit today.
Jun 28, 2012 11:43AM
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Volker we spend the most of any country on education in the world.  We rank 25th in math scores worldwide and 32nd in science.  Our "Public Option" education system produces a 29% failure rate at the HS level (they fail to graduate).  In Chicago it recently broke the 60% mark!

That means, in Chicago, 40% of the public option educated children are ill prepared for life.   I hope your doctor doesn't lose 40% of the people he operates on.

Sorry, but Public Education is a perfect example of a FAILED system.   People leave HS today with zero job skills.  The high schools have become geared to prepping kids for college.  i.e. perpetuating the need for education.  Soon the colleges will do nothing more that prep kids for grad school...  and then they will enter the work force with that PHD in English....  

This would not be so bad if we ranked in the top 3 countries for educational achievement.   But we certainly are not getting our moneys worth for what we spend...
Jun 28, 2012 11:38AM
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Weirdorama! The Red State guvs-- the ones balking at mandated health insurance --are supporting the dude who invented it for Pres .I just don't understand the logic. Must be from some kind of alternate universe or 5th dimension
Jun 28, 2012 11:38AM
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"And why is a broadly educated workforce bad?"

An educated workforce is also likely to require full disclosure on credit products, literally eliminating the shoddy programs processes and commodity facilitation that is the trademark failures of banks. Educated people are also more likely to have a home inspected before buying and have pride in ownership that affords regular upkeep and maintenance.
Jun 28, 2012 11:38AM
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2 Sick,

 

I can kind of see what you are saying, but I think you miss the increase in income potential that comes with the education.

 

I'll use myself as an example.

 

I went to a Technical College out of High School, because I was leary of the tens of thousands of dollars that came with going to a 4 year school. I figured if I enjoyed the field I could always go back.

 

However, I did still incur substantial debt...(especially to a guy make 5 dollars an hour at the time) Now, alot of guys I went to HS with got a job straight out of HS making double what I was... and they were buying new cars, toys, etc. I was the schmuck living at home, working two jobs and going to school...

 

Fast forward 5+ years, student debt paid off... and I make substantially more than 10 dollars an hour and am going back to school to get my BS. Yes, I did incur debt... but it sure paid off in my case as I have a nice home... and investments for my children's education.

 

I'm not saying this always happens, but it does in many cases. (NOT all)

Jun 28, 2012 11:37AM
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2Sick:  I don' t think anyone ever said housing was "guaranteed increased income forever"

Are you saying that the average high school grad will have the same earnings potential as a BA?

Jun 28, 2012 11:33AM
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MG:  This was the 3rd revision of the 1st quarter.  1.9 is where it's sticking.  Oh, and those are inflation adjusted numbers.

Divine:  Check out the youtube video "Libertarian Paradise"

2Sick:  And why is a broadly educated workforce bad?  Especially when that educated workforce has the ability to decide if they are going to rely on loans, or go for scholarships, grants and other means?  Remember that people largely go to school to qualify for jobs.  Unfortunately most of us can't view education as a past-time.  So people flooded schools because to have any career prospects you need a BA.  Gains from that BA, when matches against the total cost of attendance, pretty much always a win.  In many cases a cash flow win on year 1.  it's a win for the people attending, their families, their communities, and the nation as a whole.

Jun 28, 2012 11:33AM
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"Mitt's new spin: "Hey mandated health insurance was MY idea all along!" So no taking credit for it, Obama"

Hehehehehehe... Hahahahahha!
Jun 28, 2012 11:31AM
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VF,

I do think you are right on one thing.  I do think secretly, behind closed doors, that the mainstream Repubs are ECSTATIC!!!!

Jun 28, 2012 11:30AM
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The bottom line is that this will (in the long run) cost more money to implement, control and oversee than anyone can imagine. Trillions will be spent in overhead -- this money has to, and will come from somewhere. There will be lawsuits, and legal wrangling about what the law "says" for decades to come. The government will decide what you get, when you get it and how you get it -- just like they do everywhere else in the world -- aren't we lucky?  
Jun 28, 2012 11:28AM
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Well, I guess we see what the market thinks of this insane ruling.
Jun 28, 2012 11:27AM
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Mitt's new spin: "Hey mandated health insurance was MY idea all along!" So no taking credit for it, Obama
Jun 28, 2012 11:27AM
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"Obamacare is upheld"

 

We're on the road to serfdom, goodbye liberty.

Jun 28, 2012 11:26AM
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VF,

The same argument was made in the mid-naughts about buying a home, and we see how that worked out......

"Guaranteed increased income....... FOR EVER!!!!"

Until it's not...... the we go BOOM....... again.

 

Jun 28, 2012 11:25AM
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Divine:  This bill established minimal coverages.  And last I checked, private insurers covered those conditions whenever there was a group that could help offset.  Now individual plans aren't only for those who are likely going to be higher users, everyone needs them.  It means the automatic link between an individual looking for a plan and them being extremely expensive is broken.
Jun 28, 2012 11:25AM
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Would you rather stay on a private beach or a public beach? Would you rather live in a private home or public housing? Would you rather buy your own clothes or rely on government issue? Would you rather buy your own private car or rely on government issue/transportation? Private is always better than Public. We need to privatize more, and reduce as much public assistance as possible.

Jun 28, 2012 11:24AM
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It would be EASY for the Feds to force the Red states to comply. Simply say Obama care is REPLACING Medicaid for the under 65 poor . Then the Red states have to pick up the tab for emergency room UNINSURED deadbeats on their own. That would ruin their budgets, their hospital costs continue to rise and they would be voted out as a result when the voters notice the Blue state next door has no such problem. Paying for the insurance is cheaper than paying the hospital bill
Jun 28, 2012 11:24AM
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I have some wisdom to offer too....

Is there anyone one here that does not think Obamacare will PUSH us into a severe recession at a minimum?   If you believe this to be true, I think you would be wise to dump stocks and sit on the sidelines in cash.   It would be a good day to move any 401K holdings to cash.

I see the GDP numbers came in at 1.9% (it will be revised downward to say 1.4%).  I also see that the unemployment claims were the same as last weeks un-revised number 386K (which was revised upward to 392K).  

This Obamacare ruling will sink the market.  Would you rather sit on the sidelines with your 401K money is cash, or ride the market down?
Jun 28, 2012 11:22AM
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2Sick:  What's missing in any of that is people realizing that they bought increased earning potential.  Everyone moans and whines when they have to pay for something, especially when they aren't thinking about the benefit of what they bought.  It's like whining about a car payment that replaced a hunk of junk that would rarely start.  Sure you have to pay for it, but you're able to get to work now.

And if they ran to loans instead of looking for scholarships and grants as well.. shame on them.  They get less gravy over their increased earnings.

Of course these people also don't seem to understand their loans either.  One guy talking about now making his payment if the existing loan's interest increases.  And these people are talking about how they feel like they can't get a car or house or whatever.  It doesn't sound like they've sat down with anyone to actually find out that they aren't nearly as oppressive as the number sounds.

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