5 time bombs in your 401k

Even with mutual funds, buy-and-forget is not a strategy that's likely to work for long.
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Mar 21, 2012 6:30PM
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I don't like to have to page through five pages of the article for  something that could be put in a simple list. 
Apr 3, 2012 10:08PM
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OK, so what are the 5 time bombs.   Is there an article here or just a headline and tag line.   I expect that when I click on an article that one should exist.  I don't what a bunch of links.
Mar 14, 2012 5:11PM
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Start hoarding cash and get ready for the civil unrest. Occupy wall street is just the tip of what is coming in the next 10 years if we can't get our act together. To much debt and too much greed. And the politicians are to blame.  But we have to take responsibility for not just voting them out. 

 

People should not totally trash the tea party movement.  It has it flaws. But if you want change, you have to get rid of the old and start with something new.  If you don't want new, then just sit home and don't vote.  But then don't complain about the problem either.  Exercise your right to make a difference.

Mar 17, 2012 1:55PM
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"5 time bombs in your 401k"  Where is the story?

Kind of misleading, to say the least.

Apr 4, 2012 9:36AM
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When are folks ever going to learn that making alot of money in a 401k plan involves a set of circumstances, a perfect storm if you will, that most people will never see.  For most folks a 401k plan is, at best, an interest earning savings account.  The retirement lie promoted by 401k plans are leaving people with no choice but to work the rest of their lives.  The 401k plan was designed and implemented as a supplement to a defined pension plan.  However the big buisness world saw this as a new tool to dump their defined pensions and promote the lie that your 401k plan alone will sustain you in your retirement.  Well this lie quickly was exposed.  The average 401k plan has about 160,000 dolllars in it, after 30 years of contributing to it.  Now add to that the fact that a 401k is taxed at least 20% and you get a failed retirement plan.  In the end a 401k plan alone is a poor retirement plan, not as poor a plan as hoping for a lottery win but a poor plan none the less.  Good Day, Joe.
Apr 4, 2012 5:50AM
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I was one of the lucky ones, got out of the market over 10 years ago, after losing money in several mutual funds and then regaining but flat lined returns scared me off.  Went to cash, still losing money but risk is reduced.  Obviously the old school of thought which taught, as you reach retirement age reducing risk, no longer applies.  I am horrified by financial managers who are mostly younger than 30 years old now counsel us old folks into risking life savings.  Many are converting a large percentage of their cash holdings into precious metals (actually having possession).  The general rule was 10% it has now increased to 25% or more.  Something to consider, as financial times worsen and currency is debased, precious metals can be considered "real money" not fake paper.  Such "real money" can be used for trade.  Politics will cause the usual swings, but the financial course in America is charted, it cannot improve.  The financial day of reckoning is approaching.     
Apr 4, 2012 12:05PM
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Well, one thing is for sure: A governement that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.

Apr 3, 2012 9:31PM
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Yep, 5 time bombs hiding in your 401k:
1. Corporate Greed
2. Corporate Greed
3. Corporate Greed
4. Corporate Greed, and, last but not least!
5. Corporate Greed! Take your money and get out or they'll steal it ALL!!

Apr 4, 2012 10:49AM
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Best way to retire?  Right after high school,go sign up for welfare.You will be guaranteed for life ,free housing,utilities,food,medical,education,spending money,etc. All this and you never have to  work a  day in your life.You even get sympathy from the bleeding hearts as you are the "underserved" of society !! Work your **** off in some crap job all your life trying to get by and you end up with nothing. Screw it !
Mar 21, 2012 9:46AM
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Jim W.S.,

 

If you really believe that civil unrest and the collapse of society is imminent, why in the world would you want to hoard little green pieces of paper? Why would you not instead hoard things like food and clothing? Cash only has value within a society. if that society collapses, it loses its value.

Mar 21, 2012 11:30AM
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Nothing will change till Justice Department busses, a fleet of them, line up on Wall Street and handcuffed gangsters who work there are loaded and hauled off to die in prison. Then the busses go to Washington and get the rest of their organized crime members.
Apr 3, 2012 8:53PM
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Failing to expell the current gangsters/occupiers of the White House in 2012 will guarantee

further demise of the US economy and $ 5.00 a Gallon + Gasoline prices!

Let us We the People take heart and vote right in November 2012!

Apr 4, 2012 11:35AM
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Well, at least some people have some way of saving up for their retirement. My employer is a small non-profit and offers no benefits whatsoever, and other office jobs are almost non-existent in the area where we live (and if they exist they prefer to hire military wives because "they don't need benefits").

I'm squeezing $200 a month out of my extremely tight budget and put it in a Roth IRA, hoping that if I do that for another 20 years I'll get (at least) 20 years' worth of monthly $200 payments out of it.
Apr 3, 2012 10:55PM
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first of all we already seen how well the 401 k is everyone forcin us commoners into it !!! then say its safe!then c all our 401k go down the shitter never trust any rich man sayin its bullet proof its best for u and then he never geta 401k....kinda like congress sayin get health care but we deserve better than what kind of health care u all get !!!!!!!!
Mar 21, 2012 9:40AM
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Sure Robinson, you say gold and silver will always have value. However, why are they valuble? Really stop and think about it. You can't eat gold and silver. You really can't build your house out of gold and silver. (Well, theoretically, I guess you could, but practially nobody ever accumulates enough gold or silver to actually build a house from it). You can't make your clothing from gold or silver. Why then is it valuble?

 

The real answer is that gold and silver are valuble for the same reason that things like Euros, Yen, and Federal Reserve Notes are valuble. People say that they are valuble and will accept them in exchange for real goods and services. That's it, nothing more. Gold and silver actually have no more intrinsic value than dollars, yen, rubles, yuan or euros. If everyone suddenly decided that they don't really want any gold or silver, their value would disappear.

Mar 21, 2012 3:32AM
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Does the article want people to jump around?  In bad economy, no matter where you go still be the same...only the experts...to find the experts cost you money...you end up the same...sorry this article is no help...

Mar 21, 2012 1:09PM
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Mr. Taulli,   You dinged Growth Fund of America for it's large size, it's focus on foreign markets and it's concentration in large-cap stocks. Wouldn't you agree that the average investor should have a balanced portfolio weighted toward large cap? If you do, then you want to look for a fund that consistently outperforms the S&P 500. In the ten year period ending February 29, Growth Fund of America produced an average annual,after expense return of 4.77% The S&P 500 came in at 4.17%. Year to date, through March 20, Growth Fund of America grew 14.41, while the S&P 500 was approximately 12.30% As to their "focus" on foreign stocks? Yes, about 16% of Growth Fund of America is outside the U.S. Not sure I would call that a "focus", but it is enough exposure to have been a drag while international stocks lagged, but as part of a long-term strategy, that part of the fund has, and probably will continue to add to the fund's notably good long-term results. Would you advocate eliminating foreign exposure while it is down? A value investor might increase that exposure while it is underperforming. American Funds though, tends to stick to their disciplined approach throughout market cycles. As to their size? The multiple portfolio counselor system essentially makes each of their funds a basket of smaller funds, packaged under one name and prospectus. Yes, there has been some outflow, but where is that money flowing into? I imagine that much is flowing into the funds that will appear on your list of disappointing funds- next year. Oh, and 15% of Growth Fund of America is midcap. Another reason they will likely continue to outperform the S&P500 on a long-term basis. That you would have illustrated the holdings of Growth Fund of America with Union Pacific is misleading at best. UNP isn't even in the top ten holdings of the fund but, what is wrong with some exposure to UNP anyway? Their revenues should grow nicely along with the economy. Meanwhile, the dividend yield is a bit over 2%. Looks beautiful to me. Take a short-term, rear-view mirror approach if you like Mr. Taulli. Please write an essay ten years from now and tell us how how that worked out for you.
Of course, past results do not assure future performance.  You can lose money in any fund.

Mar 17, 2012 11:26AM
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I bought a piece  of land in 2006 that is now unfortunately almost worthless. But, you know what, I still  have the land to use as  I please. If you buy a stock or any paper asset that goes to zero, you've got nothing. The guy who shorted you the stock and bought it back cheap for a huge profit now probably owns your land.  
Mar 21, 2012 10:11AM
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I'm not worried about my 401K, I'm worried about my Universal Life Insurance Policy created by John Hancock that it looks no matter how much I pay, it's not going to survive.
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