Female doctors make $56,000 less than male MDs
The Journal of the American Medical Association points out the wage gap, which has been getting wider over the years.
Senators Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., and Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., introduced legislation in January that would require employers to prove that differences in pay among workers are unrelated to gender or any other qualities unrelated to their employment. Plus, it would prevent companies from punishing workers who discuss salary information.
In a report that will add more fuel to such proposals, The Journal of the American Medical Association finds that female doctors make roughly $56,000 less than their male counterparts -- and that the gender pay gap is growing.
In the late 1980s, male physicians earned $33,840, or 20% more in annual salary than their female counterparts. By the late 2000s, that gap widened to 25.3%, or $56,019 per year. The same proved true among dentists and physician assistants.
The researchers weren't able to adjust for specialty, which is no small distinction where surgeons or radiologists earn significantly more than primary care providers. However, women account for more than half of the country’s pediatricians but fewer than 10% of orthopedic surgeons, according to data from the Association of American Medical Colleges.
That's not telling women anything they don't already know. A 2011 study from the Institute for Women's Policy research found that women, on average, make 82% of what their male counterparts make, while nearly half are either not allowed or are strongly discouraged by their employers from discussing pay information with co-workers.
According to the Democratic Policy and Communications Center, women make $434,000 less than men on average over the course of their careers. That starts right after college. Congress' joint economic committee says women make $7,600 less than men immediately following graduation. And it continues to the latter stages of their career, when Catalyst says women make up just 6.2% of top earners.
All of that just shoots through the system of the nonbelievers, who still want to see more evidence, even though most workplaces have rules preventing both employers and employees from divulging such details.
Those naysayers are correct in one regard: The gender gap is definitely closing, but the Institute for Women's Policy Research says it won't happen until 2056 at this rate.
Meanwhile, why doesn't everybody just pretend the problem doesn't exist? So what if one of the largest groups of medical professionals in the nation acknowledges it? Just be quiet, wait a few generations and all that inequity and lingering resentment will just disappear. But maybe not for female physicians.
How can you call this an effective study when you don't account for specialty?
My last two family doctors have been female doctors, but I have never had a female surgeon. I have never been offered a female surgeon. The two pay scales are not even close. It is like comparing the pay of a CFO and a tax preparer for H&R Block. Your specialty is your choice, so the women doctors are to blame here.
If you have a man and woman with the same experience, doing the same amount of work in the same position, they should obviously get paid the same, and in most cases, they do. But to suggest that there's some kind of gender discrimination, because women make less than men over their entire working life, is ridiculous.
And now these idiot politicians want to add yet another regulatory burden to employers? If this law passes, now employers, without being accused of anything, must submit evidence to prove that differences in compensation are related to something other than gender? Give me a break!
I work with physicians and manage practices. Female physicians are more likely to work fewer hours per week than their male counterparts due to family pressures. Most physician contracts are comprised of a base salary and productivity incentive bonus. In order to hit the incentive levels, a physician typically must have full time or full time plus "overtime" office hours in order to see enough patients each week to lock in incentive pay. While female physicians are every bit as good as their male counterparts, many simply can't put in the hours necessary to make equal pay.
Typical MSN article based upon incomplete facts, most likely in a veiled attempt to show there is some "war on women" going on in medicine....
The way it is, he cherry picks his data to fake discrimination.
First off: Not including specialties makes the whole study BUNK!
Also, Nobody ever factors in pregnancy and maternity leave days, or menstruation days (which I think is bs--sometimes I feel like **** and am in a foul mood too--but I still show up to work, many women take this as a free pass). Nobody ever mentions that men tend to take on more dangerous jobs which tend to pay more. Men also take more physically demanding jobs which, depending on the sector, also pay more. Nobody ever factors in that men, at least in my generation, tended to start working around 14-16 years old and women of the same generation often started working at 18-21; more experience = longer track record= more pay.
Are athletes counted-?...cause that's a no-brainer as is military pay grade (combat pay is higher--few women in combat roles).
What about sales jobs--women routinely do much better than men in sales related positions, are those factored in?
Finally--men are more direct and are way more likely to simply ask for a raise and are much more likely to start their own enterprise than women.
Factor in that stuff and THEN show us the numbers...
Income is often based on specialty. I am a male family medicine MD but make less than my sister who is a surgeon. If a researcher says they can not determine the medical specialty ,they are not being honest. The AMA has average income for all medical specialties. Also men are more likely to start their own business than a women. My sister had her own practice and made more than the employed male surgeons .
"According to the Democratic Policy and Communications Center, women make $434,000 less than men on average over the course of their careers."
These studies don't take into account the time off women take for child bearing either.
Oh the horror!
The top earners, by far are surgical subspecialties. These subspecialties can take up to NIne years Training after medical school, for a total train time of SEVENTEEN YEARS after High School, and 13 years after college.
As an MD, I trained for 9 years after College myself---I did a pediatrics internship before switching to psychiatry. The surgeons trainedharder, and work harder than I do now. I make $350K a year now---they deserve more. But, as a male, I work 60-70 hour weeks. I also am on call One day in Two, as i am a rural doc. 93% of psychiatrists are in big cities in the State I work in.
Most Americans would die to make what your crying about, but medical care is about caring NOT MONEY! HA HA HA , " GET IT" not about MONEY. THAT'S like courts are about justice , and lawyers only care about justice, NOT FEES. STOP IT YOUR MAKING ME LAUGH TOO HARD . Ha-Ha-Ha.
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