Retailers start to pull some rifles from shelves
Dick's Sporting Goods and Wal-Mart suspend some gun sales after last week's shooting in Connecticut.
Dick's Sporting Goods (DKS) has suspended sales of its modern rifles nationwide. It's also taken all of the guns off the shelves at its store near Newtown, Conn., where a 20-year-old gunman opened fire at an elementary school last week, killing 20 children and six educators.
The company said it took those actions out of respect for the victims and their families in this time of national mourning.
The gunman, Adam Lanza, used one of the Bushmaster AR-15 guns in his deadly rampage. A semi-automatic version of the weapon is popular for civilian sporting use, The Dallas Morning News reports. The large retailers selling assault weapons include Dick's, Cabela's (CAB) and Wal-Mart (WMT).
Wal-Mart has stopped showing the Bushmaster Patrolman's Carbine M4A3 rifle on its website as well, according to The Nation. There is no word whether Wal-Mart will stop selling the weapon at its stores, however. But Wal-Mart's site still shows that it's selling other guns at its stores, including the Sig Sauer M400.
Cabela's meanwhile, has stocked up on guns and ammunition heading into the fourth quarter -- largely a bet on surging gun sales after the presidential election. Here's what CEO Thomas Millner said in October, according to the Atlanta Business Chronicle:
"At least coming in to the fourth quarter, we’ve taken a pretty aggressive position in inventory commitment to both guns and ammunition. So that’s a starting point. Clearly, if the president’s re-elected, I would expect some surge beyond the current levels, which are really good. And if Gov. Romney is elected ... I still think we’re gonna see gun growth next year. It probably won’t be at the same pace. ... So it’s probably a difference of degrees as we sit here today, but we’re doing a lot of stuff in our stores to make sure we are the easiest, fastest place to shop for your firearms purchases."
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There is no way to completely stop the carnage; outlawing the tool does nothing to discourage the perpetrator. Identification and intervention is the only way to reduce these acts, and not just throwing laws at everything but the underlying causes. Do YOU know someone that may need help?
If only Axes had been illegal Lizzie Borden's parents would not have been murdered. If only Box cutters had been illegal the 911 hijackers would never had succeeded. If only Ammonium Nitrate had been illegal Timothy McVeigh would not have killed anyone.
While I personally don't see the need for anyone to own an assault rifle capable of shooting 30 rounds of ammo I am also not naive enough to believe that banning these, or all, guns would stop mass murderers. We need to get some stones as a country and examine ALL the issues that lead to this behavior. Violent video games/movies that are obsessively played/watched. Lack of parental control or discipline. Moral relativism being the mantra taught in our schools. Over medication of our youth for questionable disorders.....etc., etc , etc.
When the bad guys and the government gives up their guns I will too ! Until then mine are not for the taking
The three biggest problems regarding gun violence:
1) Mentally ill/criminal mentality.
2) The media's desire to disarm the citizens of America.
3) The Powers That Be (TPTB) and their desire to disarm the citizens of America.
There are an estimated 300,000,000 guns in the US.
There were 11,493 firearm homicides in 2010 in the US.
That is 0.0038 percent of guns used for gun violence.
It also means there were 299,988,507 guns in the hands of completely safe people.
99.9962 percent of guns are owned, used and enjoyed by safe, law abiding citizens.
"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -- Thomas Jefferson
"The great goal is, that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun." -- Thomas Jefferson
This Country is dying because there is no conscience anymore. God is dead in America as President Obama said before his first election and souls like that of the CT shooter have no direction but down taking the rest of us with them. For many, they need to know they can still believe in their God but this country has taken Him out of their lives.
The shooter's name should never be spoken of again.
NOT REALLY SURE there is a "compelling argument for gun control."...??
But I do believe there is one for "gun safety."....It should just be a given..
We have guns in our family for Generations....No serious accidents or threats...
And we have never been a threat to our neighbors, none of them to us either; Most all of them have guns also...I feel comfortable with that as long I know they are responsible.
We have about every type gun or have had, except Assault type weapons or Machine guns, I have fired many of them in the past....I personally don't believe Police should have them either.
Our children and grandchildren have had gun safety training and or been in the Military, many in our extended family also..
Some have been in Law enforcement...
I could make the "old stale statement" of guns kill/people kill.....But like I've said many times before it's about people and safety....And really not about weapons.
Both sides need to get off their soap boxes; this country needs to have a serious discussion about this issue. We have more of a societal problem, we need to talk about the way America handles mental illness, the over prescription of ADHD, ADD, and other drugs, and the long term effects on young children, entertainment, movies, video games, news media, the containing decay of the moral fabric of our culture, the list goes on. We need took take a deep look at the direction of our county, not a simple shallow argument about guns. Take away guns and bad people will adapt, doesn’t matter if they use box cutters, or fertilizer bombs they will find another way to hurt and kill. Also some guns and ammo capacities are ridiculous and are not needed in society.Pandora is out of the box, there are too many guns already out there for the government which is broke to do a buyback program. There are too many people fearful about the future direction our society and country is headed in to voluntarily give up their weapons. There will always be people on the far right and left fringes that delude themselves and refuse to listen to reason. Time to toughen up America; what we are doing obviously isn’t working.
I understand that people are afraid of guns. I'm afraid of guns. That's why I have guns. I wish all those that want to get rid of them would take time to educate themselves about the real issues.
(1) The second amendment is NOT ABOUT HUNTING OR ANY SPORTING PURPOSE. It's about protecting yourself from a tyrannical government and is really a much bigger deal than most people want to think about. It was listed "SECOND" so it was considered pretty important. Admittedly, I worry about civilians having access to full powered military weapons but that's what the second amendment is about. It ain't about yer daddy's squirrel gun.
(2) The configuration of firearms can matter in certain circumstances but not as much as the media would have you think. The last "assault weapon" ban was ineffectual and that's why it was allowed to expire. The definition of an assault weapon can be found on the ATF website so I won't go into the details here. The bottom line is that removing assault weapon characteristics from a weapon does little to change it's lethality.
(3) There are an estimated 300 million guns in the US now and probably billions of high capacity magazines. Outlawing new production would be ineffectual as everybody has already stocked up. That leaves buy backs which we don't have the money for, or confiscation which would be real, real, bad ( see item 1)
I worry about kooks with guns too. I worry about them so much that I have chosen to arm myself rather than trust in someone else to protect me.
As my husband likes to say when something like this happens, it's not a hardware problem, it's a software problem. The problem isn't the gun, it's the person holding it. Making it harder for law-abiding citizens to obtain guns will do nothing to deter criminals. As JerseyAl says, what happened when we outlawed drugs? Alcohol?
People have been killing each other since Cain brained Abel with a rock. What now; we outlaw rocks? The Murrah Federal Building in Oklaholma City was blown up using a bomb made of fertilizer and desiel fuel. I could go on, but why bother? Just don't expect to see us drinking Obama's Kool-Aid at the local NRA chapter meeting.
It's not guns, it's not knives, it is mental illness, and the uneducated. We need better laws or places for mentally handicapped people can go for help. We need better schools and for dumb stupid people that shouldn't have kids to stop having babies.
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