Mortgage deduction on the hot seat

Homeowners love the mortgage deduction. So do real-estate agents and homebuilders. But it costs the government billions in lost tax revenue and may be trimmed back to fix the fiscal-cliff problem.

By Charley Blaine Nov 29, 2012 4:57PM
Let's start the inquiry with a stark question: Is the mortgage deduction a goner? No, not yet.

But it is being talked about in the context of fixing the fiscal-cliff problem, and it is one that all homeowners with a mortgage probably should be watching. But a legitimate question is whether the mortgage deduction is morphing into a tax break only for the affluent.
There will be a big, loud fight over the mortgage deduction because it has been one of the most cherished of all tax breaks.

Here's what makes it so popular:

If you buy a house with a $150,000 loan at 3.5% annual interest (the current rate on a 30-year fixed mortgage), you will pay $5,204 in interest. If you're in a 25% bracket and you itemize, your income tax bill drops by $1,301.

This assumes you can itemize deductions on your tax return. In 2012, for married couples filing jointly (which is most of us), your total deductions must exceed $11,900, so make the effort to list out charitable contributions, property taxes, state income taxes and the like. The IRS hasn't yet announced the standard deduction for 2013.

Here's why asking if the mortgage deduction is turning into a tax break simply for the affluent. Mortgage rates are down 43% from the 6% level that prevailed in 2007. That means the interest paid on a new mortgage is now much less.

So, let's say you're buying a house and want the mortgage interest to top the $11,900 threshold. That means you need a mortgage of around $350,000. That might not buy you much in New York, Los Angeles, the San Francisco Bay Area or Washington, D.C.

Nationally, however, the median price of an existing home in October was $178,600, according to the National Association of Realtors. The median price of a new home in October was $237,000, the Commerce Department reported on Wednesday.

In 2007, when mortgage rates were around 6%, the interest you would have paid on that $150,000 loan would have been $8,950. In 1982, when mortgage rates hit 15%, your interest in the first year would have been $22,500.

Fact is, as of 2010, only 25.8% actually claimed the mortgage deduction, deducting some $387 billion in the process, according to the Internal Revenue Service's Statistics of Income. That percentage is down from 28.8% in 2006, just before the housing bubble started to burst. And the number of taxpayers claiming the mortgage deduction fell by 10% in 2010 from a peak in 2007. 

OK, the percentage who claimed the deduction in 2011 may be up a little, and it may rise again in 2012 as evidence mounts of a housing recovery. But lower interest rates are clearly limiting the value of the deduction in much of the country, especially for new homeowners.

If that's the case, why is the mortgage deduction defended so fiercely? The short answer is you have always been able to deduct the interest on your house under the IRS code. And, especially since World War II, one of the key selling points of homeownership has been the deduction.

Another has been the potential for capital appreciation. A third -- though less talked about -- is the fact that paying down a mortgage is a form of saving.

The deduction is in fact capped. You can only deduct up to $1 million in mortgage interest on one or more homes and up to $100,000 on the interest on a second mortgage.

The mortgage deduction has been used to promote homeownership, believed to be an important American value because it promotes economic and social stability.

It also gets a defense from Kevin Villani, former chief economist at Freddie Mac. Homeownership and the buildup of equity in the home have been important sources of seed financing for small business.

The case against the mortgage deduction is that it historically has favored one group of taxpayers -- homeowners -- over renters. The United States is the only industrialized nation that gives homeownership such tax treatment.

And critics, mostly from the right, say the mortgage deduction draws capital away from new factories and equipment and into the construction of big suburban houses.

An important question is whether junking the deduction would make much difference to homeownership rates.

Hard to say. BusinessWeek says it was 62.5% in the second quarter, after foreclosures and delinquencies are taken out. That's down from a peak of 68.3% in 2004 and 2005.
The decline has everything to do with the housing bust and falling prices.

The odds are that the deduction will survive in a world where itemized deductions are capped. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney proposed a $25,000 cap on all itemized deductions during the recent presidential campaign. The Obama administration is warm to the concept if not the amount.

Republicans want to discuss the idea as part of a broad tax-reform package. But no one has actually put much on paper. And that's scary to Kenneth Rosen, who teaches real-estate economics at the University of California, Berkeley.

The problem isn't reform. The problem is that the tax code is so huge and complex that quick changes cause more problems than they solve, he says.

Case in point: The 1982 tax reform package promoted by the Reagan administration. The law created so many tax breaks for commercial real estate that money poured into the sector. Within two years, the law had to be amended to cool the business off.
Nov 30, 2012 10:21AM

Taxes on wages are the greatest evil of our American Republic. When government is free to steal from you, there are no limits to waste and abuse in government. If a person chooses to work extra hours or two jobs in order to better provide for themselves or their family, they should not be penalized, but that is what happens. The more you make by working harder and longer, the more money is stolen from you, and given to those who spend their lives living off the hard work of others.

The revenue the government needs to provide legitimate constitutional services should be obtained primarily from a national sales tax instead of a tax on wages. All would pay based on consumption, the more you spend the more you pay. The more luxury you surround yourself with, the more you pay. Your choice. A national sales tax system would capture money spent by criminals and by illegal aliens who currently pay near zero in taxes. There would of course need to be exemptions: Cars (already have a federal excise tax) Primary Residence/Rental Properties (vacation homes would be subject to tax/rental profit would be taxed) Fresh Food (Preprocessed foods and prepared meals would be taxed – only fresh/fresh frozen/canned goods would be exempt) Insurance Premiums, Health Care & Certified Education.

Adding another layer of tax to a business would not be fair. Businesses would need to be compensated by keeping a portion of the tax to cover the expense of collection and reporting. A percentage of .20 to .05 would be fair.

Nov 30, 2012 10:19AM
Our income is less than $150,000 and our house costs less than $200,000. We have never since we have been married ever been able to save more by taking the standard deduction. If this change is made I will be a middle class American who will suffer.
Nov 30, 2012 10:13AM

The truth is that even for those who itemize, is that the standard deductiona already covers most of the home mortgage deduction. the people who benefit from the home morgage deduction are those with the highest priced homes with the largest monthly payment.

The best thing would be to eliminate the mortgage deduction and raising the standard deduction. That will benefit the average american much more than the keeping the mortgage deduction.

I did taxes for many years and the one thing that struck me was the relative minor value of the mortgage deduction to most average americans.

Nov 30, 2012 10:07AM
If Obama want to correct more tax, he should go after cash dealing business.
All cash registers for all business have to connect to state or county  office.
Us or states will not have any budget problems.
Nov 30, 2012 10:06AM
The Congress (and Senate) is a collection of cowards. They're afraid of you, of change, of anything that doesn't spell re-election. Term limits might help, but reading the comments below indicate an expectation of bold moves. Won't happen. Term limits won't happen. Can-kicking will happen. Band aids will happen. Half measures, timid actions, mealy-mouthing will happen. Even if, miraculously, tax reform takes place, those reforms will be in effect for mere seconds before some legislative moron proposes change to benefit his personal re-election chances. For now, we pay for war planes and tanks we don't need to keep Congressional districts happy. We fluff up a contorted tax code to keep war contractors happy. We complicate tax law to keep tax lawyers happy. We move money from YOU to investment bankers to keep Wall Street happy. If you want that to change, you have to vote YOUR guy out of office. And you ain't gonna do that, now are you.
Nov 30, 2012 10:06AM
It the basic if not only deduction of the middle and without it I will lose my home. There are thousand of tax loopholes that the 1% abuse and this is what they come up with to tightened things up ... screw the middle class again buy take away the only tax benefit we get.
Nov 30, 2012 10:03AM

The writer of this article is a moron.

He leaves out so much information that it is obvious he doesn't understand the issue or he's just lazy!

Nov 30, 2012 9:57AM


As was heard on TV when we had great tv to look at said "And here another fine mess you've got into MR Goverrnment. Another program for everybody and you want to kill it.  Just more class warfare. . You guys and dolls wouldn,t know whats good for the county if it bit you on the nose. Goodluck with staying in office in 2014 congressman or senator

Nov 30, 2012 9:56AM
By the way. If you have a 30 year mortgage - you don't own your home, the bank does. How many people today actually pay off that loan on their house?

Nov 30, 2012 9:56AM
this is so cool. now that obummer is elected the real obummer is unmasked. hang on people its going to get real ugly. there is also talk of taking over 401k and iras. i will give up my interest deduction on my modest home gladly if the government eliminates the fraudulent earned income tax credit. i cannot wait to hear all those obummer voters as they bitch about him stealing their money. i hope those women getting free birth control get blood clots and cervical cancer from their freebies
Nov 30, 2012 9:53AM
The mortgage deduction is a sham to put your money in the hands of bankers, real estate agents and the government. No one would take out a 30 year loan otherwise and pay so little principle. Looking recently at my son's mortgage - 40% to the bank in interest, 35% to the government in taxes and 25% towards the loan. And he plans on moving up (buying a newer house) within the next 3 or 5 years. Better to save a higher down payment and/or buy a smaller house and take a 10 or 15 year loan.
Nov 30, 2012 9:46AM

You cannot deduct 1 million in mortgage interest and 100,000 in home equity interest as was stated.  You can only deduct interest on a mortgage debt of 1 million.  At 5% interest that is only 50,000 in interest that would be deductable mortgage interest.  If you get over 1 million loan balance the additional interest is personal interest and not deductable.

Nov 30, 2012 9:45AM
Millions of Home Owners took Mortgage Loans and Home Equity Loans and used that money for buying Stocks, Expensive Cars like BMW, Benz etc;, paid College Expenses, invested in Foreign countries....and caused the great crisis in our country. Politicians and their "kiss me" SPIN media has no interest in stopping this. Interest deduction should be given only to the Mortgage portion of the loan and upto certain percentage of our income. Can u imagine a person making sixty thousand dollars buying seven hundred thousand house and a Benz Car! Only in America! God Bless America!
Nov 30, 2012 9:41AM

I went back and listen for a second time the CNBC group talk of this topic. Listening the second time and having it finally register in my head the group talking to the issue, I would put know credence in what they have to say.


CNBC is useless as far as listening to any of their commentators. Their opinions / predictions have always been either 100% wrong or stated after the fact and or  outcome of an event.


Everyone of these people on the show, and that is just what it is a show, are a bunch of little Cramer's. The show, Closing Bell is a joke. So, don't waste anymore time with these phonies.  

Nov 30, 2012 9:36AM
i agree with most of you, i don't know how this absurd idea ever got any legs, i guess they are just willing to keep socking to the middle class.  i know what i will do, i will absolutely contact my congressman and ask if they support this...why arent serious spending cuts being discussed, i see absolutely nothing that indicates the politicians are taking a hard line on the waste and fraud, there are so many in government and privae industry that get richer and richer off our backs, and the answer os take more from us...screw them
Nov 30, 2012 9:33AM
   I have always believed that the mortgage deduction distorts the price of housing, particularly in high priced markets.  People tend to buy as much house as they can afford.  If you eliminated the mortgage deduction, they would be able to afford less, houses would not sell, and the price of housing would drop until they could afford them.  In effect, low price housing markets are subsidizing high price markets through the tax code.
   Having said this, we can't simply eliminate the tax break without a huge negative effect on home owners and the housing market.  I would suggest grandfathering current home owners and then phasing out the deduction on new mortgages over a 4-5 year period.  This would allow current homeowners to pay by the same rules that were in place when they bought their home and would encourage sales at the end of the year to take advantage of the higher tax break before it stepped down.
Nov 30, 2012 9:23AM
The home mortgage deduction is so lame for most people yet they don't realize how worthless it really is.  Take the example provided.  If a person starts off paying $5204 dollars in interest, that amount will continually decrease as more and more of the principle is paid off.  Thus, the claim that the interest is good for a tax break of $1301 is only true for the first year of the mortgage.  It's steadily down hill after that.  And, Oh yes, $1301/12 is approx $108 dollars a month in savings.  Big deal!  Let me see, you spend $5204 to save $1301?  What's wrong with that picture?  It's just smoke and mirrors.  The idea that it's such a good deal is only for the gullible.  It's a poorly disguised trick to get the mathematically challenged Americans to over extend themselves financially.   However, that being said, paying cash is beyond the reach of the average American so a loan they must have!    But, remember, that $108 month in savings grows smaller every month and before too long, the standard deduction can become a better deal than itemizing.
Nov 30, 2012 9:11AM
This deduction encourages homeownership...which is proven to create better citizens as ownership makes you responsible for your land and home.  They think the mortgage crisis was bad before...suddenly raise taxes on a bunch of people who just barely can afford to live...  Obama has been such a great President...he took a recession and made it a depression...and now they suggest ideas like this!!!
Nov 30, 2012 9:05AM
lets cut congresas and senate deductinons to zero , then kick them out of offfice in 2013 and make them pass a bill that make s people making millions and especiallly trump axxs and let give everyone who served in the military that stayed in a nd reired, plus give them free medical and dental, because congress and senate don't need any money  since they are crooks! come on folks back me on this and lets make congress and senate we feel when they are making 27000.00 a year for putting up with the bushes greed and lies about the middle east, lets take all of his money and his million dollar gate and send then to iraq!
Nov 30, 2012 9:03AM
No!  This deduction is the finance part of the so called American Dream. 
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