Could a $1 trillion coin fix the national debt?

There's been talk of minting a massive coin of platinum to help solve the nation's debt ceiling problem. It's a fun idea that has lots of problems.

By Charley Blaine Jan 7, 2013 10:30AM

Platinum necklace © DAJ, amana images, Getty ImagesUpdated: 11:59 a.m. ET

Ah, platinum, the metal of kings. It's prized by jewelers because it doesn't tarnish, and it's a key material in catalytic converters, used to reduce auto emissions.

Now, theoretically, it's also a way to provide relief from the nation's debt ceiling crisis.

That's been the talk on Twitter and the Internet in the past week or so. Rep. Jerome Nadler, D-N.Y., suggested the Treasury mint a $1 trillion platinum coin and deposit it at a handy Federal Reserve Bank, probably the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

And voila! The $1 trillion addition to the Treasury's bank account would give the government breathing room to avoid the debt ceiling fight. There's even a petition you can sign demanding that President Barack Obama mint the coin.


It's an interesting, if loopy, idea. There are lots of questions. Many people think it's illegal, while others say the legal questions are balderdash. Most important, dare we say it, the idea is simply impractical. Here's why.

The U.S. Mint makes coins -- coins we use to buy things as well as gold and silver coins that investors buy. It also makes numismatic coins made for collectors. The Treasury already sells 1-ounce American Eagle platinum coins. You can buy one directly from the Mint for $1,892 and through dealers.

Federal law gives the Secretary of the Treasury the authority to mint platinum coins of any size at his discretion. I repeat: "of any size."

Let's go back to the history of the law, enacted in the late 1990s. The legislation was actually an amendment designed to correct a flaw in an earlier law designed to let the Treasury issue and market platinum bullion and coins, according to the bill's author. According to the Washington Post, former Rep. Peter Castle, R-Del., says his only intent was to give the U.S. Mint, an agency of the Treasury Department, the flexibility to create coins small enough to attract a broad array of investors and collectors.

It was not meant to create a tool to pay down the national debt. In the 1990s, Castle was chairman of the House Financial Services subcommittee on domestic and international monetary policy, which supervised coinage questions. Still, Philip Diehl, who ran the U.S. Mint from 1994 to 2000 and was also involved in writing the law, thinks the idea may be legal.

The problem, as Heidi Moore in Britain's Guardian newspaper notes, is that the U.S. Treasury spends about $100 billion a month. A trillion-dollar coin would buy the Treasury only about 10 months of breathing room before the debt ceiling fight would erupt again as it did in the summer of 2011. "It is dubious at best," she notes, "that a Congress full of reckless legislators will surely come to their senses in only 10 months, given that they haven't for the past 18 months since the same last debacle."

How big would the coin have to be? Theoretically, the Mint could produce a platinum coin of any size and say it's worth $1 trillion.

People might react badly to an arbitrary value put on a piece of metal. But you don't know. When the Federal Reserve prints a $1 bill, people accept that value. But it is still a relative value. Currency markets determine the dollar's value around the world. That's because the Treasury stopped making the dollar directly convertible into gold in 1971.

So, it's fair to say that an attempt to create this coin might end up in the courts. And Rep. Greg Walden, R-Ore., filed a bill Monday to ban the minting of the coin.

But let's say the United States were required to make a coin that really was made out of $1 trillion of the metal. What are we talking about?

We're talking a lot of platinum
How big is a platinum coin worth $1 trillion? If you price the platinum at Friday's close of $1,558.50 per troy ounce, the coin would have to weigh 641.6 million troy ounces. Hard to get your arms around that idea? That would be 19.96 million kilograms. Still having a problem? No problem. Try 22,000 tons.

For context, global production of platinum over the last five years has averaged 194,000 kilograms -- or 214 tons. U.S. production is only 3,700 kilograms a year. The government doesn't maintain a platinum reserve such as the gold reserve at Ft. Knox, Ky.

In other words, to assemble enough platinum at current market prices to make a $1 trillion coin would require all of the world's platinum production for the next 103 years. If you were to use U.S.-sourced platinum, it would take maybe 5,400 years.

Environmentalists would surely object. About 20% of those 194,000 kilograms produced annually globally goes into catalytic converters installed in motor vehicles to reduce air pollution. The platinum is one of key components in a catalytic converter. The converter turns toxic byproducts of combustion in the exhaust of an internal combustion engine into less toxic substances.

There is some good news. The 19.96 million kilograms of platinum probably could fit into its special place at the New York Fed with room to spare.

Markets gone wild
But, if the United States were to say it will acquire enough platinum to make a $1 trillion column, you can bet the price of platinum would explode.

That, in turn, would send prices soaring for gold, silver and the related platinum metals of ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium and iridium. Great for speculators, not so great for anyone else.

Still, a soaring price for platinum would mean you don't need as much platinum for a $1 trillion coin. How much less? Your guess is as good as mine.

Minting platinum would not be free
The fact is, the U.S. Mint is obligated to earn a profit -- and does. But it is not a wildly profitable business. It grossed some $3.54 billion in fiscal 2012 and ended with a profit of $208.2 million. Revenue was down 31% overall from a year earlier. Profit, including what the Mint turns over to the Treasury, was off 60.6%.

To make pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters or to make gold and silver coins for investors and collectors, the Mint needs to buy the raw materials -- usually as blanks from a metal refiner. The Mint then turns the blanks into coins and sells them. The same is true for coins sold to collectors and coins meant for speculation.

So, if you're going to have a $1 trillion platinum coin, someone is going to pay close to $1 trillion to get the platinum. It's not clear how that would get financed.

Producing platinum would be a nightmare
Let's say the Mint operates as it does in procuring gold and silver for bullion and coin collectors. It is required to buy from U.S. domiciled companies with the gold and silver produced in mines in the United States.

Platinum presents big problems.

It is really hard to find. It usually turns up as a tiny by-product of nickel and copper. Sometimes, it's a byproduct of gold.

Second, deposits are scattered randomly around the globe. U.S. platinum production is 6% of the global total. South Africa was the largest producer in 2011 with 145,000 kilograms -- 74% of the world's total.

So, to get the platinum would mean not just the higher prices noted above but almost surely a wild drive to find more platinum deposits.

Whole mountains literally would be removed in the search.

You can imagine the politics of that idea.

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Sep 10, 2013 6:23AM
this writer goes on a foolish idiotic tangent about how large a trillion dollar platinum coin would have to be at current market value ,like a moron would do! while we are at it, should we figure out how many pounds all the morons in america would weigh in case we can sell them to other countries for a dollar per pound?
THE POINT of this trillion dollar coin is: that the constitution grants congress the power to COIN MONEY (money being allowed to only be made of metals, legally,thus the word COIN is expressly used) and regulate the value thereof (look it up in the constitution.) Thus they could at any point in time,make any coin out of any metal they want (doesn't need to be platinum) , any size, and put a face value of any amount they wanted to, including 1 trillion, or even 100 trillion say,just for convenience. and so lets say for convenience they decide to just mint a coin and value it at 100 trillion dollar, then they could just use a single coin to wipe out the whole national debt.
or if they wanted to add more credence to this action, they could mint the coin out of a rare precious metal even more rare or unusual than platinum, oh  maybe say something like indium perhaps The only huge drawback of this plan is, if they did that it would cause immediate and widespread hyper inflation of the U.S.Dollar, unless of course they took additional steps to mitigate that problem before hand (like allowing people to limited time to trade in limited amounts of their cash for these new trillion dollar hyper inflated coin money). But the real underlying question is: Does anyone with any real power in this world really even want the U.S. national debt to get paid off? answer:highly doubtful!
Jan 15, 2013 12:23PM
I guess passing the "Jobs Bill" and Jobs Creation package was too much for these clowns in congress to understand and consider?? We probably wouldn't be having this discussion now..... "Keep doing the same thing over and over expecting different results"??

Apparently there are people who have never had a course involving government finance or commercial paper. The U.S. monetary system is now based on a "promise to pay" rather than silver or gold backed currency. The form of any national currency, no matter what, is only as "good" as the country that backs it and will substantially honor it along with other national currency mediums. Even precious metals, etc. are worthless if no one recognizes it or considers it valuable. A case in point is the diamond. Why isn't it currency??... why isn't it traded on the open markets??, etc, ........ National currency or it's derivatives are a convenient and "legal:" way of conducting business and it's value is established and supported by the government..... With a trillion dollar coin you could buy New Jersey?? or New Orleans??

The money in your wallet or portfolio is worthless without government backing, recognition, and support. Our monetary system is otherwise worthless paper. It is only as good as what it represents. Absurd?? This has been going on for eons... where have you been?
Jan 10, 2013 12:22AM
I don't kow about a Trillion Dollar Coin. I think magic beans would work better.
Jan 9, 2013 8:41PM
Spending $1 trillion US dollars to buy the platinum to make a $1 trillion coin would net you $0.
Jan 9, 2013 1:45PM
It would take a trillion dollar coin just to fit His head on it
Jan 8, 2013 6:04PM
Another solution is to hire Milton Bradley to replace Geithner as they have a lot of "Monopoly Money" and that's what our governmen and financial systems seem to like.
Jan 8, 2013 12:55PM
OK, can you just remove this idiotic, ridiculous story from the MSN page, you are really reducing the content to the level of a laughingstock by leaving it here.
Jan 8, 2013 11:39AM
Jan 8, 2013 2:36AM
The $1 trillion dollar platinum coin proposal is far less complex, more viable, and more attractive than is presented here.

I’m the former Mint director and Treasury chief of staff who, with Rep. Mike Castle, wrote the platinum coin law and produced the original coin authorized by the law. Therefore, I’m in a unique position to address some confusion I’ve seen in the media about the $1 trillion platinum coin proposal.

* In minting the $1 trillion platinum coin, the Treasury Secretary would be exercising authority which Congress has granted routinely for more than 220 years. The Secretary’s authority is derived from an Act of Congress (in fact, a GOP Congress) under power expressly granted to Congress in the Constitution (Article 1, Section 8).

* What is unusual about the law (Sec. 5112 of title 31, United States Code) is that it gives the Secretary complete discretion regarding all specifications of the coin, including denominations.

* Moreover, the accounting treatment of the coin is identical to the treatment of all other coins. The Mint strikes the coin, ships it to the Fed, books $1 trillion, and transfers $1 trillion to the treasury’s general fund where it is available to finance government operations just like with proceeds of bond sales or additional tax revenues. The same applies for a quarter dollar.

* Once the debt limit is raised, the Fed ships the coin back to the Mint, the accounting treatment is reversed, and the coin is melted. The coin would never be “issued” or circulated and bonds would not be needed to back the coin.

* Only an ounce or less of platinum would be required to mint the coin, so there would be no disruption of platinum markets.

* There are no negative macroeconomic effects. This works just like additional tax revenue or borrowing under a higher debt limit. In fact, when the debt limit is raised, Treasury would sell more bonds, the $1 trillion dollars would be taken off the books, and the coin would be melted.

* This does not raise the debt limit so it can’t be characterized as circumventing congressional authority over the debt limit. Rather, it delays when the debt limit is reached.

* This preserves congressional authority over the debt limit in a way that reliance on the 14th Amendment would not. It also avoids the protracted court battles the 14th Amendment option would entail and avoids another confrontation with the Roberts Court.

* Any court challenge is likely to be quickly dismissed since (1) authority to mint the coin is firmly rooted in law that itself is grounded in the expressed constitutional powers of Congress, (2) Treasury has routinely exercised this authority since the birth of the republic, and (3) the accounting treatment of the coin is entirely routine.

* Yes, this is an unintended consequence of the platinum coin bill, but how many other pieces of legislation have had unintended consequences? Most, I’d guess.

Philip N. Diehl
35th Director
United States Mint

Jan 7, 2013 9:31PM
FOB Killaguy, Afghanistan has our soldiers restricted to two meals a day because they have limited food reserves. Way to support the troops, DC!!!!!!!!

And you think Obama gives a rip about your needs?
Jan 7, 2013 9:20PM
Stay home, quit paying income tax. Don't work for a paycheck. Stop aiding the addicts in DC.
Jan 7, 2013 8:27PM
Where do these idiots get these ideas? Quit spending so much money and quit giving money to other countries. People just pocket what money is sent. Spend it on America, because you dumb politicians do NOTHING for this country or the American people.
Jan 7, 2013 8:19PM
Crack open Ft. Knox and sell some of that gold we are sitting on!!
Jan 7, 2013 8:18PM
Somebody had nothing better to do than to actually concieve of and write about this lunacy.  WOW!
Jan 7, 2013 8:18PM
If anyone actually tried this, they, and all parties to it, should be paraded through the streets in stocks (think Salem).  Then, tar and feathered.  Who gets the bill for discussing something this stupid?  The taxpayers I believe.  Do they think Spain and Greece are not real?  If they do, they need to wake up.  But, why am I not surprised.  Truly, this administration is living in the land of Wonderland.

TOO many people not working getting free health care food stamps and welfare.Some people need help but our people have gotten lazy and won't work even if you had jobs,It is too easy to stay at home and wait on the porch for the mail man.

Jan 7, 2013 8:11PM

Trillion Dollar Coin? RONTHFLMFAO!


What ever the Treasury Secretary is smoking, I want some. C'mon Tim pass the dubie and give everybody a toke.


Wow, what a great idea. Let's make millions of these trillion dollar coins and then we can solve the budget crisis and who cares about a Debt ceiling? Actually we will have to make a bunch of Million Dollar Coins to make change when someone spends a trillion dollar coin. Imagine the Pakistani at the 7-11 when you give him a trillion dollar coin for a pack of smokes and a loaf of bread. What's he gonna do?

Jan 7, 2013 8:10PM
Wow... the guy they interviewed said we're not running out of money...

Oboma gave hiself a 400000 salary that is the reason he will not tax incomes over 200000.











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