MSN readers respond to Obama-Romney debate

And they are as divided as the rest of America.

By Jonathan Berr Oct 17, 2012 11:58AM

President Barack Obama and GOP challenger Mitt Romney traded barbs at Tuesday night's debate as if they were heavyweight fighters vying for the championship belt.

Whether the candidates will change any minds of undecided voters is hard to say, judging from the comments submitted on MSN Money's Facebook page.

The election is shaping up as one of the closest in U.S. history, and the issue that is foremost on the minds of most Americans is the economy.

Obama rescued the auto industry from collapse, and in the view of many economists he prevented a second Great Depression. Though the economy is showing signs of improvement, growth has slowed to a crawl.

But the U.S. is growing. The economy in the Eurozone contracted by 0.2% between April and June. Telling Americans that things could be worse isn't much comfort to the millions struggling to pay their bills.

Many polls show the race is tightening as it heads to its final weeks, though Obama's performance last night was much better than in the first debate.
 
MSN Money readers seem to be as divided as most Americans. Below is a sample of the commentary submitted by readers supporting Obama and Romney, presented without comment by me. Some have been edited for space, clarity and style. They appear in no particular order.

Pro-Obama
Karen H: There is no doubt that Romney's budget doesn't add up. I hope the American people can figure it out. I doubt it because they have shown themselves to be idiots. Why do I say that? Eight years of George Bush.

Whittney A: The wealthy should pay the same percentage as the rest of taxpayers. That is only fair. They should do a bit more because they have been getting a break for a long time now. . . . It's not about doing more than anyone else. Its about doing the same as the rest of us.

Lauren T: When the election started I wanted anyone else besides Obama. However after looking at every piece of information I could find about the 2 candidates, I found myself horrified by what I was finding out about Romney's plan. Trickle-down economics isn't working. Time to try something, anything, else but that Regan-era system that is not working.

Pro-Romney
Elzabeth R: I have two kids, daycare, medical bills because my son is always sick, commuting bills of 100+ dollars a week, my mortgage, etc. I am not rich by any means, but you classify me as it and tax me higher. That is how the president has raised taxes.

Kellie J: Obama has yet to fix anything. We are going deeper in debt, and it needs to be stopped. This election is about picking the lesser of 2 evils. Will Romney get us out of debt? Maybe not, but Obama hasn't done anything to reverse the debt, so ask yourselves: Can we as a country really afford 4 more years of Obama, or should we give someone else a chance?

Bill L: Of the two of them, only Romney has run a business and created jobs. Government doesn't create jobs, but big government can hinder job growth. Romney is right: To grow here, we must make the US attractive to business.

Follow Jonathan Berr on Twitter@jdberr. And they are as divided as the rest of America.

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Oct 17, 2012 12:35PM
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Allowing Large International Corporations to saturate American markets with goods manufactured in low wage; mostly Asian countries, is like swimming up stream, running against the wind, or climbing a never ending mountain.  These New World Order ideas our elected officials  have agreed to will only continue to pressure the American citizens to accept lower wages and the ensuing lifestyle.  Very little is mentioned by either candidate.  We can not grow and improve anything, jobs, housing, taxes, with the present trade relationships. Why Americans don't see this and demand better I have no clue.  Neither candidate publicly recognizes this fact. We have given up our lives and futures by being too stupid to understand simple business. When you give up your job, your childrens jobs, your neighbors jobs,  and your tax base you end up broke.  When we do stabalize at $3.50 usd per hour; the wage scale presently in Korea,  for a manufacturing job we will then have parity.  Parity in this case will be a grass hut or living 30 to a room. We are plain and simply pi$$ing into the wind. 
Oct 17, 2012 1:40PM
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OBAMA is, was and always has been a smooth talking Snake Oil Salesman. Now he's out of Oil amd excuses and has lost all credibility. That said, he might just get re-eleceted because a majority of the naition is apathetic, uninformed about politcs and politicians, and almost 50% are receiving some kind of benefit from him in exchange for their vote! 

 

NO president with Obama's record has ever been reelected and I'm hoping that continues or it will be four more years of serious economic decline!

Oct 17, 2012 2:19PM
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People hear what they want to hear. Obama said last night that he will attract manufacturing by providing tax incentives for big business. GE already pays no taxes! His jobs czar Jeffery Imelt already closed a jet engine manufacturing facility in North carolina and is sending 30,000 jobs to China with that one strategic move. Maybe Obama forgot to tell him which country he was suppossed to create jobs in!  Who pays for those tax incentives?  You and me!

 

  His plan to raise taxes on the rich covers 4 days a year of deficit, just what do we do about the other 361 days of deficit a year. Every person i know with real money is getting ready to shut down and retire if Obama gets reelected. No one who doesn't have to wants to put up with 4 more years of this nonsense. Obama is lying to all of the middle class and the kool-aid they are drinking is going to go down like arsenic.   

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Government overspending must stop! How can our Government spend more than it takes in? America families have to cut back, spend less, and be more careful with money.

Why does the Gov. not do that? Because it's not their money, it's ours. It's easy to spend money recklessly when you take it away from people at gun point.

If any one of us tried that, we'd be in jail.

Obama is not the answer, 4 years has shown that. Romney may not be either, but I want to give him a shot. His business experience and ability to SEE what businesses need to expand, hire, and produce is monumental over Obama.

I imagine his Jobs Czar will be paramount in these next four years if he is elected (Donald Trump?)

 

Oct 17, 2012 2:52PM
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While true the New world order is not interested in any of this....They want to control and that means enslave you any which way they can. Why do you think it is all surpressed? Because Solar cant be metered because free electromagnetic power a la Nich Tesla using the earth's naturally abundant magnetic fields cannot be metered.....The New World Order wants to keep us all as slaves....Now taking over all our resources Food and Seed Patents, Farm land and Fresh water resources, Medicines and cures......Population, DNA and Cloning Controls that's the NEW wave of New Order Domination. Art Cashin said yesterday the End of the World has been delayed...Technically hes right....WE are all waking up to the way they operate...and we are calling them out....and Voting them out and standing up for our RIGHTS....We need to continue every day stopping them....and supporting them...PAY ATTENTION....AND WAKE UP...!!!  SAVE THE NEXT GENERATION.....!!!!
Oct 17, 2012 3:22PM
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the only sector doing well is the banking sector. after the fed prints up the money, thats the next destination. wake up people.
Oct 17, 2012 3:25PM
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in other words people its no longer tax and spend for these clowns. there is nothing left to tax. the new normal is print and spend. wake up people.
Oct 17, 2012 3:36PM
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There is no question that Romney is the better choice.  He understands the economics of this country infinately better than the President.  His history of bipartisan leadership sets him up perfectly to unite our country and move us forward together.  Obama is the great divider by promoting class warfare.  The top 10% income earners pay more than 50% of the taxes yet Obama depicts them as not paying their share.  Romney is an expert at fixing broken companies and he will fix our economy.  I also have no doubt that Romney will attend the security briefings and attend the job council meetings unlike our President.  Need I say more?

 

James Tyack

Oct 17, 2012 3:24PM
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People graduating these days would have to have masters degrees and agree to take < $20,000 a year to compete with overseas workers.  Corporations want the best deal they can get, and they won't stop because it's all in the name of smart business. (or the almighty dollar. It's a no-brainer as far as corporations are concerned).  What is either candidate willing or able to do about that?  We're on a fiscal cliff for sure, but it has nothing to do with higher or lower taxes.  It's called the global economy.  Looks pretty grim to me.

Oct 17, 2012 3:17PM
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Rich paying 20% in taxes vs 14% is not the issue obama makes it out to be. He pits the middle class against everyone. Gas prices are up huge take a comparison: $4000 in fuel for a year  to someone who makes a million dollars a year = .4%. $4000 to someone who makes $40,000 = 10%. His policies are killing the middle class and to spend 10% of your income on gas is ridiculous. Is it fair that when the "rich" go to the gas station we ask them to pay the equivalent $80 a gallon vs $4.00. Absolutely not and this is what Obama proposes. Do the same thing with health Care costs, Lets assume rich pay full premiums for a family $25,000 a year. To the million person that is 2.5% AND LETS GIVE AN ADVANTAGE TO THE MIDDLE CLASS WORKER EARNING $40,000 and say their employer pays most of the premium but he still pays $6,000 a year IS STILL 15% of his income.  DOES THIS MAKE SENSE NOW? His policies leave less money for middle class to have fun in life and spend more of their money on needs. I guarantee you it will not improve with Obama.
Oct 18, 2012 10:46AM
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Romney supports the constitution and free enterprise and O'bama is another socialist dictator.  The choice

is freedom or captivity

Oct 18, 2012 1:13PM
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halarious people can defend obama's left wing democrat socialist agenda

that is 4 years of failure and corruption! yet the keep saying like the bias left

wing liberal media and the lying president that Romney's plan doesn't do this

or that without any facts to prove it! Obama promised changed what we got

was high debt, energy food etc prices and he admitted he's not doing anything

about this so he can push his failed green and welfare agenda! i'd rather take

a chance on Romney who has a proven track record than a failed lying activist!

Oct 17, 2012 8:59PM
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Romney wants more FREE trade agreements in more countries.

Why?

Oct 17, 2012 4:15PM
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Student loans that cannot be forgiven is the New World Orders Corner stone and their way of OWNING YOU...!! So it will not matter what degree you have...They will pay you WHAT THEY WANT....just look at all the MBA and Masters degrees getting paid less that 50K/ yr and you have over 200k in loans @ 5-8% interest...in fact the more in debt you are the more leverage they have on you...!!! The New World order wants to keep you chasing your tail a NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THEIR THIEVERY...!!! The Zealous Thugs from the New World order include all those Zealous Heads of state in Israel , Europe and in our own cabinet...to the dissatisfaction of the American and Israelis people that want PEACE.....!!!
Oct 17, 2012 2:51PM
Oct 18, 2012 11:15PM
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Grow dependency, grow the democrat base.
Oct 21, 2012 3:39AM
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Well Ben Stein said it all on FOX News what i have been saying all along ! Tax cuts do not create jobs and we cannot balance the budget with just tax cuts alone!!!! And Wayne Rogers of Fox said what i have been saying all along !!! The US Congress are the ones that must act.. And they are still on VACATION America.... DUH.....
Oct 19, 2012 9:47PM
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Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right, here I am, stuck in the Middle with you!
Oct 22, 2012 4:20PM
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Less government interference/regulations is what I believe is necessary to even begin to reduce the debt.  Businesses--large and small are what can/will create jobs--the government needs to get out of their face!
Oct 18, 2012 7:55PM
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Wake up America!

Romney is specialist in dealings with China in outsourcing jobs. The whole deal is very secret. Romney has the greatest expectations to win the elections. After he is in power for a few months Congress will pass by the Republicans and the Senate a Bill to cut the minimum wage in the USA to $ 4.50 an hour! China will begin bringing back hundred of repetitive manufacturing assembly jobs from China. the whole idea is to slowly foment thousands of foreign of low paying jobs to USA reducing the uneployement numbers, the American wages will gradually decrease until the hour payment be kind of the same rate, of about $2.15/hour or lower as in China, then after hundred of factories are in secured position, all the assemblies put together in the USA, will be sent back to china on a monthly basis, China needs all our metals, and materials they can get from us to keep the feeding of the billions of hungry Chinese that need to be fed to control their masses of people needing work, later our own American cars will be assembled in special shops far away from our cars production centers, and sold directly to the Chinese at a very low price, this slowly will kills the competition in our USA, and our car makers, and workers will be laid-off because we cannot compete with the $2.25 hour pay. Wake up America. We are in this situation because 8.5 million jobs went outsourced to China since 2000-2008. But all you know well that Bush knows what was going on, but participated in the outsourcing. We all think now quick to make sure to vote full democratic ticket. Do you truly think Obama can recaptured, and create that many lost outsourced jobs in 4 years, you know well no one can do it! But Obama is not a liar. Vote for Obama, or we will be in the bread line soon if unfortunately the omney, Ryan, and The Rich get to the White House! It seems that the procurement of metals from us at a very low cost could solve one of the greatest metal deficit problems for China, that has the low key intentions to suck all they can from us as they have been doing since Bush neglection to stop or interfere with the horrible outsourcing of our jobs to enrich China, Romney, and large USA Corporations again are specialist in this doing! So sorry for all of us, it will take a long time for Obama to correct all these abuses!

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