MSN readers respond to Obama-Romney debate

And they are as divided as the rest of America.

By Jonathan Berr Oct 17, 2012 11:58AM

President Barack Obama and GOP challenger Mitt Romney traded barbs at Tuesday night's debate as if they were heavyweight fighters vying for the championship belt.

Whether the candidates will change any minds of undecided voters is hard to say, judging from the comments submitted on MSN Money's Facebook page.

The election is shaping up as one of the closest in U.S. history, and the issue that is foremost on the minds of most Americans is the economy.

Obama rescued the auto industry from collapse, and in the view of many economists he prevented a second Great Depression. Though the economy is showing signs of improvement, growth has slowed to a crawl.

But the U.S. is growing. The economy in the Eurozone contracted by 0.2% between April and June. Telling Americans that things could be worse isn't much comfort to the millions struggling to pay their bills.

Many polls show the race is tightening as it heads to its final weeks, though Obama's performance last night was much better than in the first debate.
 
MSN Money readers seem to be as divided as most Americans. Below is a sample of the commentary submitted by readers supporting Obama and Romney, presented without comment by me. Some have been edited for space, clarity and style. They appear in no particular order.

Pro-Obama
Karen H: There is no doubt that Romney's budget doesn't add up. I hope the American people can figure it out. I doubt it because they have shown themselves to be idiots. Why do I say that? Eight years of George Bush.

Whittney A: The wealthy should pay the same percentage as the rest of taxpayers. That is only fair. They should do a bit more because they have been getting a break for a long time now. . . . It's not about doing more than anyone else. Its about doing the same as the rest of us.

Lauren T: When the election started I wanted anyone else besides Obama. However after looking at every piece of information I could find about the 2 candidates, I found myself horrified by what I was finding out about Romney's plan. Trickle-down economics isn't working. Time to try something, anything, else but that Regan-era system that is not working.

Pro-Romney
Elzabeth R: I have two kids, daycare, medical bills because my son is always sick, commuting bills of 100+ dollars a week, my mortgage, etc. I am not rich by any means, but you classify me as it and tax me higher. That is how the president has raised taxes.

Kellie J: Obama has yet to fix anything. We are going deeper in debt, and it needs to be stopped. This election is about picking the lesser of 2 evils. Will Romney get us out of debt? Maybe not, but Obama hasn't done anything to reverse the debt, so ask yourselves: Can we as a country really afford 4 more years of Obama, or should we give someone else a chance?

Bill L: Of the two of them, only Romney has run a business and created jobs. Government doesn't create jobs, but big government can hinder job growth. Romney is right: To grow here, we must make the US attractive to business.

Follow Jonathan Berr on Twitter@jdberr. And they are as divided as the rest of America.

72Comments
Oct 22, 2012 5:37PM
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When you are walking with God...God will make everything possible...when you choose a candidate ..pray and remember that your vote will decide the future of your children and nobody else but YOU will be responsible for their safety.
Oct 22, 2012 5:32PM
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I am a Christian and I will vote for the candidate that holds God's principles at heart. Mitt Romney is a Christian man who doesn't believe in partial abortion and who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman as God inteded it to be, just like Adam and Eve. If God had intended gays and lesbians to be married, then God would had made it possible for a gay couple or a lesbian couple to procrate a child naturally.

Oct 22, 2012 4:20PM
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Less government interference/regulations is what I believe is necessary to even begin to reduce the debt.  Businesses--large and small are what can/will create jobs--the government needs to get out of their face!
Oct 22, 2012 2:31PM
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Romney stands for nothing. He will say anything he has to to be elected. His positions change by the minute. He has no integrity.
Oct 21, 2012 3:39AM
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Well Ben Stein said it all on FOX News what i have been saying all along ! Tax cuts do not create jobs and we cannot balance the budget with just tax cuts alone!!!! And Wayne Rogers of Fox said what i have been saying all along !!! The US Congress are the ones that must act.. And they are still on VACATION America.... DUH.....
Oct 21, 2012 3:36AM
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Well Ben Stein said it all on FOX News what i have been saying all along ! Tax cuts do not create jobs and we cannot balance the budget with just tax cuts alone!!!! And Wayne Rogers of Fox said what i have been saying all along !!! The US Congress are the ones that must act.. And they are still on VACATION America.... DUH.....
Oct 19, 2012 9:47PM
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Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right, here I am, stuck in the Middle with you!
Oct 19, 2012 11:09AM
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As the debate went on i noticed the MITT WITT has no plan for anything but tax cuts ? And more war ? And gutting anything for old people , and nothing for collage students. He wants to kill mortgage deductions ? LOL That will make the housing market grow? LMFAO. So once more people name just one job the MITT WITT made ? Just one? STILL LOOKING...For all them jobs created by the MITT WITT and 10 plus yrs of tax cuts ... <<<<<< STILL LOOKING ... LOL
Oct 18, 2012 11:15PM
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Grow dependency, grow the democrat base.
Oct 18, 2012 11:11PM
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AMERICANS, THIS IS THE EXACT TIME TO PLAY THE ROMNEY AND RYAN FLIP-FLOP PRESIDENTIAL DESTRUCTION MACHINE. YOU NEED NOT TO KNOW THE LIES FROM ROMNEY OR RYAN, JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES, AND BY BIG ERROR VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN TICKET, AND I PROMISE YOU WILL BE WORKING FOR MUCH LESS THAN MINIMUN WAGES IN A CHINESE MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN THE USA---- JUST GIVE ROMNEY AND RYAN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEY WILL REWARD 75  MILLION OF US SLAVES WILL BE WORKING IN A ROMNEY/RYAN  CONCENTRATION CAMPS! HAPPY VOTING
Oct 18, 2012 8:03PM
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The more I read this hundred of posting are come to the sad conclusion that our
country is in the worse political, and economical situation, not because of the Republican Party wrong political policies and hard lies since Bush, and Romney, and Ryan, but because the stupidity of us, the people not capable of knowing what Party has the best for their protection, and interest for a better economy, and a better life! We had a serious let down, and almost a total economical disaster having two wars provoked by Bush at a terrible cost of many trillion of dollars, plus the abuses of the Rich making billion with the wars and the blood of our braves in the war zone. We keep voting wrong, and all of us will one day be in the bread lines with our Republicans signs " Romney for President", to cover from the rain pouring on our heads! America, wake-up, vote for any other Party, Independent or Democrats, but do not repeat a mistake that will bring tragic consequences to our family, our seniors in Medicare, and Social Security, vote Republican and it will be nothing left of Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid in few years for the middle class and the poor, but complete control of the rich over the middle class. Women will work for nothing, and in less than a year we all be very sorry we gave the vote to the greatest lairs on earth Romney and Ryan the liar!

Oct 18, 2012 7:55PM
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Wake up America!

Romney is specialist in dealings with China in outsourcing jobs. The whole deal is very secret. Romney has the greatest expectations to win the elections. After he is in power for a few months Congress will pass by the Republicans and the Senate a Bill to cut the minimum wage in the USA to $ 4.50 an hour! China will begin bringing back hundred of repetitive manufacturing assembly jobs from China. the whole idea is to slowly foment thousands of foreign of low paying jobs to USA reducing the uneployement numbers, the American wages will gradually decrease until the hour payment be kind of the same rate, of about $2.15/hour or lower as in China, then after hundred of factories are in secured position, all the assemblies put together in the USA, will be sent back to china on a monthly basis, China needs all our metals, and materials they can get from us to keep the feeding of the billions of hungry Chinese that need to be fed to control their masses of people needing work, later our own American cars will be assembled in special shops far away from our cars production centers, and sold directly to the Chinese at a very low price, this slowly will kills the competition in our USA, and our car makers, and workers will be laid-off because we cannot compete with the $2.25 hour pay. Wake up America. We are in this situation because 8.5 million jobs went outsourced to China since 2000-2008. But all you know well that Bush knows what was going on, but participated in the outsourcing. We all think now quick to make sure to vote full democratic ticket. Do you truly think Obama can recaptured, and create that many lost outsourced jobs in 4 years, you know well no one can do it! But Obama is not a liar. Vote for Obama, or we will be in the bread line soon if unfortunately the omney, Ryan, and The Rich get to the White House! It seems that the procurement of metals from us at a very low cost could solve one of the greatest metal deficit problems for China, that has the low key intentions to suck all they can from us as they have been doing since Bush neglection to stop or interfere with the horrible outsourcing of our jobs to enrich China, Romney, and large USA Corporations again are specialist in this doing! So sorry for all of us, it will take a long time for Obama to correct all these abuses!

Oct 18, 2012 1:13PM
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halarious people can defend obama's left wing democrat socialist agenda

that is 4 years of failure and corruption! yet the keep saying like the bias left

wing liberal media and the lying president that Romney's plan doesn't do this

or that without any facts to prove it! Obama promised changed what we got

was high debt, energy food etc prices and he admitted he's not doing anything

about this so he can push his failed green and welfare agenda! i'd rather take

a chance on Romney who has a proven track record than a failed lying activist!

Oct 18, 2012 11:07AM
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Bill L: Of the two of them, only Romney has run a business and created jobs. Government doesn't create jobs, <<< I have to ask this guy name just one job he created ? His business was to strip companies to the bone and run them into the ground ! And then lead them into bankruptcy... That was and is Bain Capital . Just like Cerberus did to Chrysler , striped them of product too all the cash and led them to Bankruptcy... And so on marches wall street ... But then he is right on one thing . Government does not create jobs , the private sector does...< And out of the two people running for POTUS > Thats the MITT WITT ...So all these tax cut for over 10 yrs have done a whole lot nothing from the private sector and wall street. QE1,QE2,and QE3 has done nothing .. But devalue the dollar Go Ben !! Make the price of everything go up when he does this . He's buying toxic bonds but our home values are still 50% lower .. That a boy Ben .. You are doing a fine job.. LMFAO..
 
Oct 18, 2012 10:46AM
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Romney supports the constitution and free enterprise and O'bama is another socialist dictator.  The choice

is freedom or captivity

Oct 17, 2012 8:59PM
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Romney wants more FREE trade agreements in more countries.

Why?

Oct 17, 2012 4:22PM
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This will be a comment page full of angry neo-cons who can't articulate far right positions to the general electoriate. Then they crap themselves and play with their political feces, running around MSN with it on their face like war paint. Fox news flash, wingnuts he's not a conservative. the epicenter for conservative thought is based squarely in the deep south and Mid west. ****'s like Newt and Herman and GWB. Mitt is a moderate who is from a blue state not red. Turned his back on Akin. Didn't embrace Ryan budget says he has his own? Slams Bush to get away from the former presidents leadership on conservative issues. When called to the mat by Rick Santorum on his lackluster conservative record, Mitt attacked his sound conservative platform with names like "career politician".

He has moved his positions to the middle abandoning many of the ideas from the conservative base. In order to appeal to the military right he proposes to add 2Trillion to the defense budget and put it on the credit card not a responsible position if the base wants to drastically reduce spending. many of you who comment aren't conservative voters you associate with a brand. Real conservatives have their reservations about Mitt but have to go with him because they want the president out. Most who comment spit out the cable news drool and rhetoric because thats all the tv has taught you. Mitt has had to play the game in the republican primary, study the base and tailor a pitch that will pander to the base. Once the base is on board dismember real conservatives and then water down the policy positions to appeal to "brand" conservatives: a group of voters who only come out during an election year. is it because 25% of  conservative ideology is actually appealing to the electorate? or is he more comfortable stiff arming the party base to appeal to the brand. Why doesn't he mention tea party members? very little talk about the military or the economics of the deep south. Brand voters have no real vision just love the banter and white hot rhetoric, like its a pep rally for a college football game. They have on the team colors but can only name the quarterback. sheepish blind support. If this were not the case many would spend more time talking up the base ideals instead of focusing so much energy on the incumbant. How many of you voted in the gop primary for romney last election cycle or the cycle before that. I live in a red state and have ultra conservative friends and they are only behind Mitt because they hate the black liberal president. In fact, they would have rather seen Newt or Rick on the top of the ticket. The enthusiasm gap for conservatives is real and has only changed within the last  7 days. the base supported GWB not because the had to because they wanted to and felt strong about his values. Mitt is a matter of need not a want.

Oct 17, 2012 4:15PM
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Student loans that cannot be forgiven is the New World Orders Corner stone and their way of OWNING YOU...!! So it will not matter what degree you have...They will pay you WHAT THEY WANT....just look at all the MBA and Masters degrees getting paid less that 50K/ yr and you have over 200k in loans @ 5-8% interest...in fact the more in debt you are the more leverage they have on you...!!! The New World order wants to keep you chasing your tail a NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THEIR THIEVERY...!!! The Zealous Thugs from the New World order include all those Zealous Heads of state in Israel , Europe and in our own cabinet...to the dissatisfaction of the American and Israelis people that want PEACE.....!!!
Oct 17, 2012 4:10PM
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Some people pretend to be blind when they want to be. This economics is the way it is because we are spending our money in wars that were initiated by false information invented by the republicans and help some manufactures sell their products and now there blaming the current president and in top of that if you have business and the population that use to by that product cannot buy it (e.g. Europe and the hold international community) anymore how can you business progress? Is that the current president fault? how can the current government implement any idea that help the economic when the republicans and the tea party only intention is to remove the current president from the White House. Republican Party is the only one responsible for this economics situation.

If Ronny get elect the richs will be richer and the middle class going to disappear.

Oct 17, 2012 4:04PM
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Neither opponent scored any points. Independents will not be swayed either way. This exchange (debate) demeaned the position that they are running for.  Mediator was awful. Questions asked were poorly answered by both men. If there was a third candidate I would certainly considering them for my vote. The world market is going to perceive our weakness to solve our own problems internally. This is going to cost me money. Might have to layoff a couple more employees to combat the damage. Gentleman, another job well screwed up. Shame on you both!!!
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