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Suze Orman says we should all pay cash

Just say no to companies that are jacking up rates and raising fees.

By Teresa Mears Dec 7, 2009 3:54PM

Suze Orman has a message for credit card companies that are jacking up interest rates, raising fees and otherwise treating their customers badly: Bye-bye.

 

We don’t need you. We’re going to pay cash.

 

On her Saturday night show on CNBC, she asked viewers to join her in a Back to Cash movement. “Let’s go back to the good old days,’’ she said. “Let’s go back to the times when you literally paid cash for everything. That’s right. Cash. Stop using your credit cards altogether.”

 

Like most personal finance writers, Orman in the past has advocated the responsible use of credit cards: choosing the best deals, paying off your balance every month and building a strong credit history in order to boost your FICO score.

 

Well, forget that, girlfriend, she says. Now it’s time to just say no to banks that are trying to squeeze every penny they can out of us.

On her show, Orman read a letter from Citibank to her director’s wife, raising the interest rate on her card to 29.9 percent, though she had never missed a payment. We’re all getting those letters, and some customers already have voted with their feet, figuratively speaking, canceling their cards rather than pay higher fees and interest rates.

 

Ann Minch of California went on YouTube to complain about Bank of America raising her interest rate, hoping to spur a debtors’ revolt. Unlike many customers, she also got her interest rate reduced to its previous level and was featured on Orman’s show.

 

But it’s unlikely we can all go on YouTube and win better credit card terms.

 

So should we turn to cash?

 

It’s an intriguing idea. Why do business with companies that treat you badly?

Some businesses give you a discount when you pay cash, because the business doesn’t have to pay interchange fees, amounting to 2% to 3% of the transaction amount, to Visa, MasterCard or Amex.

 

And, for many people, paying cash means spending less, which is always a good thing.

 

Financial broadcaster Dave Ramsey has always advocated shunning credit cards and paying cash. “You do not build wealth with credit cards,” he wrote in an article entitled The Truth About Credit Card Debt. “Use common sense. When you play with a multi-billion dollar industry and you think you're going to win at their game, you are naive. You cannot beat the credit card companies.”

 

But the convenience of credit cards is hard to give up, plus you get extra warranty protection and often rewards such as cash back or airline miles. For those reasons, some people pay for everything with credit cards.

 

While it’s possible to live without a credit card, it can be difficult, especially if you travel. Debit cards have their own set of problems. Not using any credit at all can make it difficult to get the best interest rates on a mortgage or a car loan.

 

What would it take for you to give up using credit cards and go back to cash only, or at least cash, checks and debit cards?

 

These days, credit card companies are acting as if they don't really want our business, especially if we don't carry balances and pay our bills on time, avoiding some of the most punitive fees. Do you suppose they'd change their tune if we all turned to cash?

 

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463Comments
Dec 8, 2009 8:08PM
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ymcritic,

 

Two things:

1.  "This example is lousy. You received a good or service for that extra $160. If you bought something you don't need, you only have yourself to blame."

-  Chances are you bought those extra things because all you had to do was swipe a card and it's yours.  You don't have to worry about that pesky little detail of having enough cash in your wallet.  The fact of the matter is that you spent $160 more.  Paying with a credit does not register psychologically as giving cash to a merchant and your chances of overspending increase.

2.  "The credit card company didn't get $160. They got an extra transaction fee of 2-3%. So $160x3%=$4.80 in extra revenue because you spent more."

- That's not true.  The CC company gets that $160 in your payment (during the grace period to avoid interest and collect the "precious" rewards).  Plus 42 cents if you mail in your payment :-)

Dec 8, 2009 7:25PM
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I use a credit card for everything and get about $700 cash back. I have the card setup us for auto pay. So, I will never have a late fee or interest charges. All you need is some discipline to not charge more than you make. I have a healthy savings and a house that I bought with in my means. Now my housing cost are fixed for the next 30 years. If the card ever starts charging me an annual fee I will cancel it. There are plenty of card issuers and not all of them use dirty tricks to get fee revenue. The credit card transaction fees charged to the retailers is already priced into the product. So, unless they offer me a discount for using cash, I have no reason not to use a credit card. It's simple. If a bank screws you over, cancel the card and get one from a credit union or smaller bank. They will lose your business and the revenue associated with it. That's how you punish bad business practices. If they upset enough customers and they leave, the banks profits will suffer. That is capitalism. Stop asking the government to baby sit you.
Dec 8, 2009 6:56PM
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It is only a matter of time until biometrics becomes the norm.  All that will be needed to buy something is a fingerprint and/or a picture of an eyeball.   This James Bond technology has been around for years.  No more plastic needed.  I'm looking forward to it too.  Sooner the better.  ID Fraud anyone ?
Dec 8, 2009 6:25PM
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What I have learned today is that the credit card companies sure have people brainwashed.  You just THINK you need them, you WANT them, you think they are your SECURITY blanket. 

 

I cannot think of one good reason to NEED a credit card.  You can build credit in other ways, if you need to.  You can do all the things you do with a credit card using your debit card, like travel and car rentals and such.  I've done it, it isn't hard, they don't ask for your first born, sometimes you can even get discounts paying up front. 

 

If you insist on having a credit card, and insist that you pay your balance off every month and you are super human and never forget or make a mistake, then good for you.  But most of us are imperfect humans and stuff happens.  Better to have your own cash reserves than depend on the credit card companies to bail you out.  Believe me, they will charge you dearly for it.

Dec 8, 2009 6:18PM
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I only use money anyway so I agree with Suze, I just feel that soon the Paper Dollar is going to be eliminated!  Doesn't anyone else see what I see?  There are places in this already where you have to use only Credit Cards.. It just concerns me for my kids in the future.. What's next?.. barcodes on the body?!! Seriously!! especially how this world is becoming so eco friendly.. Why do you think the President is talking to all nations.. I'll bet anything on it!!
Dec 8, 2009 6:17PM
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Creditors offer business services and they have to make a profit to stay in business so they will find ways to make a profit. Creditors make their profits from merchants (merchant fees 2-3% per transaction) and from consumers through fees which most are avoidable. Consumers need to look at APR, annual fees, late fees and transaction fees. Once you find the creditor (www.creditcards.com) that offers the best deal then you can easily get by without having to pay much of these fees. Its really not that difficult and it allows consumers to build their credit portfolio for other investment opportunities like business loans and real estate property. America was built on lenders and intelligent, savvy folks who took out loans/credit and utilized them to leverage themselves. If you cannot control your payments (automate), budget and spending and do not have any business or investment intelligence then I agree that you should avoid credit. Otherwise, use credit the way it was meant to be used and all will be fine.
Dec 8, 2009 5:59PM
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To the_golden1: finally, someone who gets it.  We also took the FPU course over the summer and since I started paying cash, I've spent about 20% less than I did using credit cards. 

 

When you spend cash, you're actually giving something away in exchange for what you buy.  You embrace the true value of money.  It's a lot different than just mindlessly swiping a card.  When I have to part with cash, I'm much less inclined to make impulse purchases.

Dec 8, 2009 5:50PM
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Fortunately, I have done this already. I've been paying off my credit cards for sometime now (2.5 Years) and have reached a point of zero debt. I'm not all seeing, but am planning for retirement. No mortgage, no Car loan, no credit cards, just monthly utlitites.... The problem is my credit is now suffering, damned if you do and damned if you don't.. What the heck is wrong with CASH!!!!!
Dec 8, 2009 5:50PM
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Another brilliant from an idiot.  Use your credit cards, just use them wisely and pay them off every month! Suzy you arem simply amazing, and people are dumber just by listening to you
Dec 8, 2009 5:48PM
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TO LUKE.2.0

THAT CHECKING ACCOUNT CARD IS A DEBIT CARD, OF WHICH, TRANSACTION FEES ARE CHARGED TO THE MERCHANT( JUST LIKE A CREDIT CARD).  THE MERCHANT PASSES HIS EXTRA CHARGED FEES ON TO US BY RAISING PRICES.  IT IS ALL SUCH A CONTINUOUS CYCLE.

Dec 8, 2009 5:40PM
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Saving up enough for a house shouldn't be a unrealistic goal, but we've all become addicted to instant gratification.  Don't hate, I'm right there too.  But I learned.  That's what drives me crazy about tv shows like Property Virgins.  Most of these people are starter yuppies wanting McMansions.  Did I miss some booming career field?  I sure couldn't afford some of these houses and the hubby and me combined make $90 grand a year.  I have an 30 year old tri-level under 1700 sq. ft.  I'd like to have a house with newer plumbing and bigger bedrooms, but at least I can afford to keep the heat and light on.
Dec 8, 2009 5:36PM
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You can use cash via your checking bank account and still get the benefits of a credit card via the account card which usually has Visa/MC on it.  I've been doing that for years; no transaction charges, no interest rates; just gotta make sure you have that cushion in your account.

Dec 8, 2009 5:18PM
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I will take it a step further, horde cash and IF you must buy, use cash.  But horde money first.  Your banking institution will have more money to lend and that stimulates the NATIONAL economy.  You have money in the bank and that stimulates YOUR economy.  Cash is king, never discard a pair of kings.  Credit cards are bad, I have one with a zero balance.  I use cash, no insufficient funds fees for me.  I can only spend what I have, not what I will earn at some future date.
Dec 8, 2009 5:13PM
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I agree with many of you who say that credit card use is just fine, as long the balance is paid in full every month. When used this way, credit cards are a great financial tool. In fact, for online purchases, credit cards are almost essential. The rewards are just a nice little extra.  So far, none of the fee hikes, rate hikes, etc have not affected me. As soon as that happens, I'm gone.

 

 

Dec 8, 2009 5:12PM
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Unfortunately, some reach a point that the ONLY way to "put food on the table" is to charge it. That is very bad, but a reality to many. Aside from those in THAT situation, get a rewards-type card (Discover, etc.) and just pay off your card each month and you won't give a damn what interest rate the card is charging because YOU won't be paying it anyway...the card will be PAYING YOU.  But that takes DISCIPLINE to live within your means and NOT spend the money needed to make that monthly balance payment; some folks got it, and some don't.

 

 

Dec 8, 2009 5:00PM
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For myself I think killing the credit cards are a great idea. Most people approach this from a personal standpoint. i don't want to use credit anymore because of the industry. I understand that personal responsibility can make a huge difference on whether someone can benefit from a credit card or be a slave to one. What about the big picture? As a consumer Americans can influence the market. I don't shop at Walmart because I don't agree with the business practices. I don't want banks to run my life because I like the freedom of handling my finances. When I vote I look at the big picture for America instead of one aspect that benefits me. Does anyone else feel this way? Is everyone such a snowflake that they can't see the big picture? Make these banks look to the business sector by eliminating debt and closing accounts. The American people can still influence this country and make big corporations or big gov't accountable.
Dec 8, 2009 4:26PM
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My wife and I have been teaching the Dave Ramsey FPU course for the last few months.  In the debt lesson, Dave mentions that studies have shown the average consumer spends 8-12% MORE when they use a credit card than with cash.  I've read a lot of comments from people who mention they are getting "cash back" and airline miles when using their credit card.  You are not getting over on the credit card company, even if you pay off your balance each month.  Say you pay all of your expenses for the month with cash ($2000 for example).  The same scenario with credit cards would be, on average, $2160 (2000 * 1.08).  Are you receiving $160 cash back from your credit card company each month?  I didn't think so.  NOBODY gives away free money.
Dec 8, 2009 4:21PM
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Cash or debit cards are the smartest way to go.  Unfortunately, if you want to buy a house you need very good credit and a lot of cash.  You're probably better off buying one of those store cards and paying off the balance every month. 

 

My plan... pay off debt and get a Lowe's card.  Pay off the balance every month to increase my credit score. 

 

I can't wait until I'm financially free!!!!!

Dec 8, 2009 4:20PM
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Oh I forgot to add..I never ever buy anything unless its needed... Thats why I chose not to buy her books! their not needed! good sense is cheaper to come by and since were in the computer age why not read information for FREE! thanks for your input Suze...
Dec 8, 2009 4:17PM
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i agree, i have been able to get rid of my credit cards and i will never have another. if i can not pay for some thing in cash i dont need it that bad, and if i do i save up for it. i am 26 years old and i can say i am doing pretty well for my self having a husband and raising a 3 year old son w/ no credit cards.  to many people take them for granted and that is why they are in the shape they are in.
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