Is not tipping ever OK?
Should a tip be considered a reward for good or excellent service at a sit-down restaurant? Or is it something you should always do?
Are you in the camp that believes that if you can't afford to leave a tip, you should not be dining out?
I am, but that sentiment is not universal. Most recently, the no-tipping debate erupted again after a photo was posted on Reddit of a credit card receipt for $138.35 for a restaurant meal. In the line for the tip, someone wrote "single mom sorry" and added a cheery note, "Thank You it was great."
Some bloggers figured the receipt was a fake or, worse, was intended as a slap at single mothers. "I think the diner was not really a single parent, or at least not one who couldn't afford a tip, but rather someone trying to imply that some single moms feel like they are entitled to a pass because they are struggling financially," wrote Mari-Jane Williams on The Washington Post's On Parenting blog.
Mommyish blogger Lindsay Cross said she thinks the note on the receipt was "a very awful prank to make single moms look bad."
Since we have no way of knowing anything about the signer's intentions, let's focus on the basic question: Are you ever right to not leave a tip at all?
The Emily Post website seems silent on this question. The site's recommended tip for sit-down dining is 15% to 20%, pretax. However, no exceptions are listed. Tipping.org recommends the same range for tips.
Others who have commented on the topic seem to fall into one of two groups:
- Those who recognize that the tip is a part of the server's pay and thus always tip. (This group generally includes those who work or have worked as a waiter and understand how hard the job can be.)
Wrote one commenter on Yelp in San Antonio:
"It's never acceptable to not tip your server at all! Even when the service is terrible. Now, I'm not saying you must leave a GOOD tip but keep in mind that these people live on the measly change you're leaving them. If there is a serious problem with your service/overall experience then let management know and trust them to take care of the problem."
- Those who think a tip is a reward, and thus can be withheld.
"This arrogance that tipping is required for service is ludicrous," wrote Chris Thomas, a former server, on the Brass blog. "If you don't like working for minimum wage or less, don't work in service expecting more."
We can think of a combination of factors where you might be tempted not to tip. (This applies to sit-down restaurants in the U.S. In some countries around the world, tipping is not expected because restaurants pay the wait staff a living wage. Yes, hard to believe, I know.) The service would have to be really awful, like the server repeatedly ignoring requests for water refills, screwing up orders and delivering cold food -- all delivered with a bad attitude. Many recommend complaining to the manager in such cases.
On the other hand, we can see why you might always want to leave something -- perhaps 10% -- even if the server was rude. Here's why:
- Unintended consequences. "If the restaurant is a 'pooled house' (where servers share tips with runners, busboys and other employees), when you don't leave a tip, you're punishing all the other staff members too," Helena Echlin wrote on Chow.
- You're messing with someone's pay. Base pay for servers is lousy, with the median in the U.S. at $8.81 an hour in 2010, according to a 2012 Bureau of Labor Statistics report. "Imagine if someone docked your salary every time you missed a deadline or made a typo at work," wrote a poster at an eGullet forum.
But not tipping because you can't afford it is never legitimate. As one commenter at Yelp in Portland, Ore., wrote, it's like saying, "Can't pay my rent because I bought expensive furniture."
Is not tipping ever appropriate? Why or why not?
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My best friend was a waitress in an upscale restaurant many years, she worked 5-midnight on Friday and Saturday, her gratitudes for those 2 evenings she took home more than I did working a full week in an office. Have I ever NOT left a tip, yes, very very few times, it is a thankyou for satisfactory service received and I won't thank someone for that which I did not receive, not a watiress but a haircutter that I did not tip. Most times the problem is the so-called management and supervision or lack thereof.
when did service get redefined into auctioning off your food?
when i order a steak and my wife orders the chicken, and someone comes out seriously ASKING US "steak?" or "chicken?", WHY DO THEY NOT KNOW?!?!?!?
that is one element of basic service. your JOB is to take the order, deliver the food TO THE RIGHT PERSON!
this is even worse with a small to large group of people. we have to turn into trained seals because the training of "service" that doesn't include noting WHO ORDERED THE FOOD!
when i get this style of "service" my tip drops from potentially 20 to 15, to 10% or less.
the job you ELECTED to take has a description of take the order, deliver the food, deliver the check. if that is ALL you do, that gets simply minimum wage.
I was a waitress... hard work for little money. There are the "good" customers who interact with you and then there are the "jerks" who leave the change in an upside down water/soda glass or in the left over food. I taught all my kids to tip, also, and leave comments.... good or bad.
I may be your server for your meal, but i am not your maid...........
Being a server helps the communication skills, people skills and dealing with priorities and deadlines..... a good way to start out and it is FUN. Any job is fun if your attitude is in the same state of mind.
I TIP and I also have no problem giving my opinions to the server and the owner. Positive & negative re-enforcement.
Yes, not tipping or tipping a few cents can be an appropriate way to point out to a server that they need to seek out another profession or to give them an attitude adjustment. I rarely leave no tip, but have on several occasions left 2 cents and in one case the server caught up to me in the parking lot to apologize(it was a restaurant that I was a regular at), but only happened once. I also had a waitress confront me the check out line and throw the 2 pennies at me and scream at me in front of the manger that I was speaking to about her. She didn't last long cussing me out ion front of management was not smart.
Despite the low hourly most servers make, I look at a tip as a bonus for proper service and the tip percentage goes up as server gets better.
Slow service, waiter was somewhere between inattentive and rude.
As I took the check to a computer where they handle all of the orders, the manager happened to be standing there.
I told him about the service, he did the thing of taking off part of my bill and then handed me my card and receipt.
I asked for a pen to sign the receipt. (I wasn't going to leave a tip.)
He said that he didn't need a signature (and I guess part of that message is that he was refusing to give me an opportunity to tip).
(And yes, I've checked my statement and have been charged for the exact adjusted amount.)
I was all ways taught
20% good service
15% average service
10% bad service
I will not tip if the server is rude or incompetent. On the other hand, I might tip a bit more than 15% if he or she is very polite & helpful.
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