
Young people have it tougher these days
Housing and education cost less back in the day, and people made better money.
This post comes from Trent Hamm at partner site The Simple Dollar.
I recently had a long conversation with a man in our community who is nearing retirement age. He felt comfortable about his own coming retirement, but he seemed very pessimistic that his children would ever be able to retire. "They just don't know how to save money," he told me.
I told him that although I agree with him that young people should save more, there is also a strong case that it is much more difficult today for young people to establish themselves financially than it was when he was a young adult.
He looked at me strangely. "What do you mean?" he asked. Post continues after video.
So, I laid it out for him, piece by piece. Afterward, it occurred to me that the entire discussion might make for a good post here, particularly with some specific research to back it up.
- Real wages. Let's start with income. In 1970, the average private wage earner made $312 per week (in 1982 dollars). In 2004, the average worker earned $277 per week (in 1982 dollars) -- and it's still falling. That means that once you factor out inflation, the average wage earner in 1970 brought home about 18% more than the average wage earner today.
- Home prices. Even if you adjust for inflation -- and even if you take into account the crash of the housing bubble from 2007 to today -- the median price for a home in the U.S. has gone up more than 50% since 1970. Remember, that number accounts for inflation, so what that number actually means is that the cost of a home requires 50% more of a person's paycheck than it did in 1970.
- Education prices. The cost of an average undergraduate education (.pdf file) since 1970 has drastically outpaced the growth of the Consumer Price Index. In short, disregarding inflation, the cost of an undergraduate degree today is roughly 30% higher than it was in 1970.
- Other essentials. In order to compete in today's workforce, a young person often must have items that weren't needed in 1970, including a cell phone, a computer, and home Internet access. Often, in the search for work, it's very difficult for a young person to compete without these extra expenses.
So, in order to have housing and an education comparable to what a young person had in 1970, they must spend 50% more on housing and 30% more on education, and do it all while earning less money. That doesn't even include the extra expenses needed to compete.
I look at my own parents for an example. My parents purchased the house I grew up in for $20,000 -- and that included seven acres of land. At the time, that was about what my father earned in a year. Today, if I were to purchase a similarly sized house with seven acres of land, I would be spending well over $100,000 -- significantly more than an annual salary.
My parents were also able to find good work without the cost of a college education. Today, the jobs they both had would be completely unavailable to someone without a college education, putting significantly more expense on the back of a young person today.
This isn't meant as an excuse for people of my generation not to live up to their potential. Instead, it's an encouragement for people not to obsess over comparing the success of young people today with the things young people had in the past. It isn't really a valid comparison.
Rather than focusing on results, look for signs of progress and for the status of the journey as a whole.
More from The Simple Dollar and MSN Money:
Outsourcing of jobs overseas, the cuts in income to people who DO still have a job here in America and the continuing pressure to cut everyone's wages and benefits are starting to show. This is being played out in Wisconsin as we speak.
This is what we are coming to in America. A nation in a race to the bottom of the wage scale for many people in the middle class.
But, everyone wants their Walmart prices for things that are NOT made here in America.
I too, fear for future generations if we continue to not invest in jobs here in America and continue to not produce anything here and buy it all from oversea suppliers.
I have come to the conclusion that we have come to a point in are nation were people don’t care for each other anymore. We keep coming up with every excuse in the book to not get people back to work. They are too old, not educated enough, not enough experience, to much experience; they don’t know this program or that program, it cost too much to do on the job training. Even though they will go to India or China and build million dollar training facilities. How is it that during the Great Depression a person with very little education could go down to a factory and work for a day and know you must have a PHD just to work in an office. It is all @#$%, and everybody knows it.
Not only do companies get in the way of a recovery, so do are own governments (local, state, and federal). They sit up on their golden pedestals and whine and moan about arbitrary subjects as the rest of us suffer at the bottom, just because they don’t want to discuss the real issues that are impacting are nation.
When you see this type of disparity between classes, it tends to cause problems for the future. It hindered many sectors of are economy; house, business, automotive, etc.
We all need to start making logical decisions, and stop listening to these to bit ideologs, and fifteen second sound bites. We need to get back to a time when people gave each other a second chance.
We're screwed, the only question is will there be enough KY Jelly to go around . Atleast it won't be as painful. There will be the 10% of haves and they will have a lot monetarily and control wise, there will be 80% of us just hoping to make ends meet so we can maybe semi-retire at 70. Semi-retire means be a parttime Wal Mart greeter in some crappy Fla or AZ retirement hot bed, or some other trivial part time gig to suppliment your measly ss check and diminshed medicare package. Then there will be 10% in poverty but some of them will be living better than the 80% humping crappy jobs for crappy pay.
1 pt this article leaves out is the high cost of daycare because if you want to make ends meet you'll be spending aroun 8-10K a year for decent childcare before Kindergarten age, because a dual income is needed unless you make around 100K a year.
say what? outline how much better it was in 1970 then finish with basically a "don't fret about it" remark?
the backslide simply indicates how much we're slid and likely indicates how much MORE we'll slide in another 40 years.
This isn't meant as an excuse for people of my generation not to live up to their potential. Instead, it's an encouragement for people not to obsess over comparing the success of young people today with the things young people had in the past. It isn't really a valid comparison.
Rather than focusing on results, look for signs of progress and for the status of the journey as a whole.
Seems like in my grand parents' generation you would meet someone that flipped burgers and THEY COULD BUY A HOUSE and RAISE A FAMILY with that money! WTX? Are you serious!?
I agree with the outsourcing comments below - I've been outsourced 3 times. I think we were better off keeping to ourselves more. TheOnlineGovernment.org gives a good explanation of this. Too many big businesses with too many hands steering the government - so the boat goes nowhere in the end.
Good to see the reality expressed in concrete financial terms for once.
All I know is I went to a major State-supported University in the early 1980's as an in-state student. Under the current tuition & fee schedule, it now costs more to go to the same school for one semester than for the 4 years I was there (not including room & board).
And they are going to increase everything this fall because the legislature is going to cut the funding the State provides, again.
It is nice to read an article that simply articulates as much of an apples to apples comparison as possible when trying to analyze life's options.
I have more simple comforts such as centralized heat and appliances than my grandparents, their life expectancy was quite good, 96 years for the ones that lived through the 1970's. They had more free time, but they didn't have the entertainment options or computers to "simplify" choices. But housing costs and outsourcing has stymied retirement indefinitely. My grandparents left property to my parents and they sold it to retire and there won't be anything left. I'm not whining just trying to work out my options. Pensions are very few & far between, I have a small business and supporting payroll just about wiped us out. Everyone wants a guarantee and that's not realistic. I'm not bored.
Things are different now, but not more difficult. I grew up in the 70s/80s. My mom worked like a dog as a waitress at the holiday inn to buy a tiny house and keep food on the table -but she did it and it was a matter of priorities. We had basics and that's it. Vacation? Whats that? new clothes? Maybe for Christmas. Go out to eat? My mom would have died laughing if we kids had asked. Child support? Are you kidding me?
Then I borrowed tons and tons of money for school--state school, not private. After grad school, my multiple loan payments were for 15 and 20 years but I paid them off in 10 because after my basics were paid (mortgage, utilities and food basically) every dollar, I mean EVERY dollar went toward those loans. Yeah 10 years was a long time, but it was half of the time I might have paid and in the end I saved on the interest which was a whopping 9-10% for student loans back then. I learned from how my mom managed in hard times.
Then after finding I didn't die without a new car every couple years, a bigger house, the newest cell phone and the biggest cable package and with all student loans paid off, I was able to actually live AND save. Now I can live comfortably but modestly-I don't have the newest, but I do have some stuff like a cell phone and internet. Yes people, these things are luxuries not necessities. If you view them that way you will see you aren't really as bad off as you think. I still use everything to the last scrap, drop and fiber just like in the lean days. I couldn't wait to stop "acting poor" but now when that time is here, I can't help it because being wasteful is just dumb no matter what you have.
BTW, I was a high school drop out, had 2 kids by 19, and just scraped and scrapped little by little up the ladder. Got some lucky breaks, also had to manage a few bad breaks. There are probably more of both to come. As for mom...she now has several totally paid for income producing properties , a nice nest egg , and can still be overjoyed at a dinner at a nice restaurant.
Dear Mom,
My own house (3bdrm, 2 bath, 1 story w/basement, 25yr old house) cost six times my annual salary. Could you afford to pay that even in 1970 when wages were 18% higher than they are now?
My annual salary is $40,000. In 1970 they earned 18% more which means I would have a ‘spare’ $600 a month to play with in today’s money. More actually, if you reduce my housing costs by 50% as they were in 1970.
Let’s see, my mortgage is $1058 a month. Reduce that by 50% is $529. Let’s add $529 along with the $600 and you get a whopping $1129 a month Extra! Oh wait. I don’t have that extra because I earn less money today than they did in 1970 and I pay 50% more for housing in addition to the extra expenses not needed in 1970 such as cell phone, computer, and home internet access.
So, in actuality I have over a thousand dollars more per month in expenses than you had in 1970. Or you could calculate it simply as 9 days worth of pay. Could you make ends meet with 9 days less pay each month?
Let’s look at taxes. Have taxes gone up since 1970? What percentage did you pay in 1970? I bet I pay more.
Tell me again, why is it that young people today can’t save money?
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