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More Black Friday sales start Thursday

Sears plans to open its doors at 8 p.m. on Thanksgiving, even earlier than some of its largest competitors.

By MSN Money Partner Nov 5, 2012 3:18PM

This post comes from Melinda Fulmer of MSN Money.


Image: Santa Claus (© Corbis)Retailers are more determined than ever to horn in on your Thanksgiving dinner, starting their Black Friday sales before or soon after you've consumed that big bird.


Sears announced that it will open its doors at 8 p.m. on Nov. 22 and keep them open for a whopping 26 hours, or until 10 p.m. on Black Friday, to accommodate its customers who sought more "flexible" shopping hours. The night owls will get door-busters at 10 p.m. and the early birds will get a second round of limited-quantity deals at 4 a.m.


Sears' decision to open its doors early probably has as much to do with the competition as it does with its customers. Toys R Us and Wal-Mart last year opened their doors at 9 p.m. and 10 p.m., respectively, on Turkey Day. Sears, meanwhile, was one of the holdouts, sticking to its 4 a.m. Friday start time.


Nobody, it seems, wants to be last in line for consumers' hard-earned dollars.

Department store rival Kohl's, for one, has said that its Black Friday sales will go live online at 12:01 a.m. Wednesday, Nov. 21, and its stores will open at midnight on Thanksgiving. While many stores do offer many of their deals as early as Wednesday or Thursday, it's rare that a retailer announces these online deals, in part because stores want shoppers to come out to their locations, where they typically spend more on impulse buys.


Sears' sister company, Kmart, meanwhile, has been open on Thanksgiving Day for 21 years running and will continue to be, open from 6 a.m. to 4 p.m. and then again from 8 p.m. until 3 a.m. Friday.


In other shopping news, the Black Friday ad for RadioShack was leaked today, and hardware giant Lowe's provided a glimpse of 25 of its hottest Black Friday deals.


By this time next week, experts say, many of the largest stores will have released their ads, allowing shoppers to begin checking off which of the 20,000 estimated Black Friday sale items will make their list. 


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Nov 5, 2012 7:16PM

Ok, so I can shop online and score some $5 jeans and other clothing itams I need for a good price. I spend my Thanksgiving day with my family and then late in the evening I do a little shopping, so what is wrong with that?

By the way, almost my whole family goes Black Friday shopping with me, so how am I ditching my famly for shopping? We are doing it together.

I do agree the store should be closed on Thanksgiving with most of you posters, but if somewant to shop online go for it....

Nov 5, 2012 7:15PM
Yeah I am not doing Black Friday any more either, it's really just a waste of time and just another way for retailers to get over on the consumer and make more money and for get about the moral of Thanksgiving and besides it's just like a mad house in most stores and if your not in line or in the store by a certain time you don't get the sale it's just a waste of time all around, who even cares about Black Friday anymore, if you pay attention to detail sales that most retailers have, you can even get better deals before Black Friday and even after Black Friday, that's the main reason I am stopping for good now to.
Nov 5, 2012 7:14PM
Nothing like being trampled over right before the holidays !
Nov 5, 2012 7:05PM

For all you people saying that it’s a terrible thing for stores to have their specials why is it so bad they are not forcing you to go buy from them so you can be home with your family as for the workers well they are out of luck I’m sure they can spend time with their family any other day. We all need our pay check at the end of the day right? why are you just going to be thankful and want to spend time with your family on that one specific day grow up and quit whining about someday that’s no different than any other. Spend any day and time you do have with your family and treat it like a holiday.   

Nov 5, 2012 7:04PM
If you don't like like the stores being open then don't shop there, shut up and let me take your place and parking place. Nobody is forcing you to shop or the workers to work. If one of my workers did not want to work,I would say no problem and I would get someone who doesn't have a job
Nov 5, 2012 7:04PM
I know I'm in the minority here, but I like the changes.  I would rather stay up late Thursday than wake up at 2 or 3 am.  
Nov 5, 2012 7:00PM

I believe that Thanksgiving, Christmas Day and Easter the stores should be CLOSED there is no need for people to be pulled away from their familes. Besides you don't see the PEOPLE IN THE BIG OFFICES working just the worker bees. If they had to be in the stores working on those days the stores would be closed.  Its sad that HOLIDAYs aren't meaningful any more its all about the money..

I won't be shopping on Thursday or Friday for that matter. I would rather pay full price then be in the middle of the chaos. Its dangerous and Ridiculous.


Nov 5, 2012 6:48PM

This is exactly the reason we need Unions. I can hear it now, when the minimum wage Sears employee told their supervisor they could not work Thanksgiving day because they were going out of town to visit family, they were told "you will work if your job is important to you!" The only way corporate America will hear you is if ALL of the employees stand together and say ENOUGH!! ie- Unionize

Sounds alot like how our country was formed doesent it?

Nov 5, 2012 6:33PM

Supply and Demand. Very simple economics at work here. This nation is going down the sh%$hole fast!

Nov 5, 2012 6:03PM


Nov 5, 2012 5:59PM
Black Tuesday will begin tomorrow.  Just read two articles that is hard for me to understand.  One says Buckin Bronco Bama's salary is 400,000 yearly.  And the other says he has spent 366 million on his campaign.  I know that isn't his money but it is money.  That tells me there is total corruption in government.  Romney has spent about 57 million for a 1.6 million job.  These have to be crooks.  There has to be something coming back to those funding this garbage!  Americans, we are a nation of slow learners if we put the incumbents back in office.  If we do, we deserve what we get.  I will VOTE TO REPLACE INCUMBENTS tomorrow!!! They have ruined our country!!!
Nov 5, 2012 5:58PM
this is unreal.  Just because people who are lucky enough to have the holiday off are bored and have nothing better to do than shop?  How about you spend it with your family watching movies or talking or something?
Nov 5, 2012 5:51PM
what are you?  A Socialist ?    LOL
Still not shopping on Thanksgiving Day. So sorry for all those whose only purpose in life is to shop..........................
Nov 5, 2012 5:37PM
Nov 5, 2012 5:34PM
I think all of it is an abomonation of our capitalistic nation.  Now... before you chastize me... think about what our country likes to boast about... high family values!!!  This is ridiculous.  I promise you that you will not see the CEO or President of the company there.  We all have lives and would love to spend quality time with our families.  I am in the Automotive sales industry and the pure greed that is out there among dealership owners and general managers is horrible.  Although I am sure that most of them would love to be closed on more holidays and possibly just make it an industry wide closure for Sundays.  The fact that "someone" would stay open without an actual law being in place like in some of the places around the country makes it nearly impossible.  There would not be any lost sales if there was just something in place.  All of these retailers wanting to stay open just hurts the employees of the company.  Although I am sure there are some people with little to no family or social outcasts that actually don't care if they work that will be the exception, but not the majority.
Nov 5, 2012 5:34PM
I hate Black Friday.  I hate the fact that people have to work on a day of "Thanks"; of refelction... what has happened to our country's sense of morality in this case.  Truly pathetic.
Nov 5, 2012 5:19PM
I hate fighting the selfish crowds... I'm shopping at Amazon.
Nov 5, 2012 5:09PM

This thing with stores opening at 8pm on Thanksgiving or even 10pm.... is rediculous. I mean, dont the retailers know that their very own employees DO have families that they would like to spend the day with, and not spending it in the bed to get rest before working all night long? First of all, I personally think all the hype with Black Friday is just that,,, HYPE!... I believe the day is not a SALE day! I believe that everyother day is a RIP OFF DAY! Secondly, this may sound clique', but it is true. Why do we feel Christmas is ALL about getting or giving the biggest gift? Christmas is about spending time with families, Thanksgiving too. It's about being thankfull for what God has given us. Some of you may say Thanksgiving is not a religious day or a GOD day, but oh it is. When the pilgrams had the very first one, it was set to give thanks to GOD for what HE did for them. Will we ever get back to the "family" instead of the "dollar". Will we ever get to the day when we are more concerned about the family than the dollar we spend on the family? I pray one day we will get closer to the "family" than we are now.

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