Apple sets the tone

Although its issues are self-inflicted, it's holding back the rest of the market.

By Jim Cramer Oct 3, 2012 8:48AM

theStreet.com logoAppleIs it Apple (AAPL) tick by tick? Lots of people have been speculating how important Apple has become to the market. Given that it is 20% of the Nasdaq ($COMPX), we know it's a huge deal to that index.

 

But can this market rally without Apple, even intraday?

 

Here's my take. You may not be able to pin down the correlation, but it has become highly unlikely to have a big rally in this market without Apple's participating, if only because it has become ingrained in the American stock psyche like no other stock I have ever seen.

 

It simply colors everything, and when it goes down, there is a presumption that something is very wrong, and if it is very wrong with Apple, it has to be really wrong for everything else, except perhaps for its enemy, Google (GOOG).

 

Now, here's a bit of semicircular reasoning, but if you were to take Apple out of the indexes so they wouldn't be biased by it, I still don't think the impact would be lessened. This stock has become the heart and soul of stock trading, and everyone and his brother seems to have a chart of where it fails and where it holds and where it bounces to and where it gets repelled.

Until it gets back into a gentle rise, something that can happen as it changes the tenor of the Maps discussion -- hey, it can happen, as Steve Jobs changed the tenor of the antenna discussion -- I think we are going to be trapped by it in one form or another.

 

It's just too important.

 

This is a shame. Apple's issues are really self-inflicted. It could have kept Google Maps for now while working on its own system, which I have now used and believe is, theoretically, far superior to Google's, except that it doesn't have the right information programmed into it.

 

But until Apple comes up with something better than an "I am sorry" answer, I think we are going to be reading off the Apple chart, and that means we are in no man's land, which means the overall market might be in no man's land, too.

 

Jim Cramer, TheStreet.com

 

Jim Cramer is a co-founder of TheStreet and contributes daily market commentary to the financial news network's sites. Follow his trades for Action Alerts PLUS, which Cramer co-manages as a charitable trust and is long AAPL.

 

 

 

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20Comments
Oct 3, 2012 12:26PM
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What absolute drivel - 

"I want to invest in P&G today .....oh wait I had better see what Apple is doing before I make my buy"...

I think he mentions apple in the headline to get clicks - kinda like a hooker lifting her skirt - clicks or tricks ---

From the number of posts on his recent columns even his sycophants are syc of him!
Oct 3, 2012 11:53AM
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If Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 start to gain traction and sell you'll see a huge market rally in PC stocks and rotation out of Apple into them. One share of Apple buys 22 shares of Microsoft,  29 shares of Intel, 39 shares of HP or 66 shares of Dell.
Oct 3, 2012 4:04PM
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It could have kept Google Maps for now while working on its own system, which I have now used and believe is, theoretically, far superior to Google's, except that it doesn't have the right information programmed into it.

 

I guess having the "right information programmed into it" is not a core feature needed in a maps app?  Or any app for that matter? 

 

Cramer you are such an unabashed schill it's ridiculous!

Oct 3, 2012 1:46PM
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it's holding back the rest of WHAT markets? They are dead.
Oct 3, 2012 2:17PM
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Apple's manufacturing isnot exactly clean and they don't sell the best product on the market - it's all great advertising and denial on behal of the American public that the iPhone is a desireable product.

Oct 3, 2012 3:26PM
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I am no market guru but I do watch and read a lot of business news. Just the fact that business news can report a bad headline one day and a good one the next can simply sway the markets. Just look at how oil markets have always reacted to news weather it was actually happening news or just might happen news. I think the general stock market is reacting that way. Just like oil traders of everything are trying to guess what is going to happen next. Its better to do something then nothing. The trouble with Apple is if it can continue its rise or will something happen that throws Apple into a death spiral.

If you look at Apple long term you know it has had worse days. It has been riding a high but after the whole Antennagate, glitches in its operating systems, labor problems with its partners like Foxconn and the general feeling now that Apple is not such a nice company coming from a society less forgiving of wealthy companies who seem to defy good profit margins. But instead make exceptional profit margins.

Oct 3, 2012 5:24PM
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Just let Maria say the market is surging,which she does daily is enough already.A stock up 1 percent is enough for her to have a orgasm.Get real Maria and live in the real world..
Oct 3, 2012 5:41PM
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And by the way I am very tired of hearing Jim refer to his charitable trust,like he has to justify every word and action that comes from him.I know we live in a very microscopic environment,but Jim enough with your charitable trust.We really beleive you, and enough with proving your innocence.
Oct 3, 2012 1:58PM
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I believe windows 8 will be an incredible os. Currently, with respect to smartphones, there is android and apple's ios 5 or 6. Android is horrendously unstable and constantly crashes with the "forceclose" error and the unhappy face icon. Apples iphone is a joy to use and very, very stable. Windows phones running 7.5 are also a joy to use and very stable. Windows 8 phones like the Lumia 920 look incredible. The Microsoft Surface appears to have the beauty, build quality and portability of the iPad combined with the ports and power of a laptop. Its the first tablet that can replace both my laptop and Ipad. I am looking forward to trying it. I was in the Microsoft store in Westchester and they have am incredible all in one pc that is not only touch screen, but turns into a large ipad like computer.  I have already ordered one. I like the iPad and the iphone but have returned all my android devices as the os provides a terrible user experience. Windows 8 will provide for a beautiful alternative to apple. Their Kinect and x-box are also wonderful products.
Oct 3, 2012 8:47PM
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The idea of the ceo of Apple apologizing is a sign of weakness

Oct 3, 2012 3:16PM
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There is nothing wrong with Apple Maps that is Apple's fault
Oct 3, 2012 3:09PM
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oil drops because of slow growth in china, where the hell have you guys been. vacationing with the obama's, idiots, slow growth been there for 3 years.  when is the wall street gonna get with the times, drop the dow about 5000 points and you guys will be telling the truth instead of fixing everything for obama. glad people are making money right now but i would be thinking of pulling the plug soon. the fiscal cliff is going to happen their isn't much anyone can do to fix it.  a budget would have been nice 3.5 years ago. hahaha  even the demo's laughed at obama with his.

sorry i was out of line but can't write no where else.

Oct 3, 2012 9:32AM
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