Facebook cracks down on illegal guns posts

Under pressure from anti-violence groups, the social media site said it will remove illegal offers to sell firearms across state lines or without background checks.

By MSN Money Partner Mar 6, 2014 11:34AM

A customer inspects a handgun © Kris Tripplaar/Sipa USA/Rex FeatBy Jeff Elder, The Wall Street Journal

Facebook (FB) on Wednesday announced new restrictions on promoting guns on the social network, amid pressure from groups favoring gun control.

The Wall Street Journal on MSN MoneyIn a blog post, Facebook said it would remove offers to illegally sell guns without background checks or across state lines. Facebook will notify users offering to sell guns of relevant laws and limit the visibility of posts and pages about gun sales to users 18 and older. When users search for guns on its Instagram site, Facebook said it would display messages about gun laws.

Facebook said it would rely on users to report posts and pages offering to sell guns. It said the changes will be implemented over the next few weeks. "We will respond to posts that signal attempts to evade the law so we can delete them," a spokesman said.

The changes come after a six-week campaign by the advocacy groups Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, which posted a video in February depicting offers to sell guns illegally on Facebook. The groups planned to deliver more than 130,000 petitions seeking a crackdown on posts about illegal gun sales to Facebook headquarters before the company agreed to the new policies.

Last week, technology news site VentureBeat reported that it arranged to buy a gun illegally on Facebook in 15 minutes, and The Wall Street Journal reported assault-weapons parts and concealed-carry weapon holsters have been advertised to teens on Facebook.

Illegal gun activity on Facebook "is in many cases blatant," said Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action. New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, who also had been talking to Facebook about its gun policies, called the changes "probably the strongest step ever taken to end" illegal firearms sales on social media.

Critics have cited Facebook pages such as Guns For Sale, a "community" page with 213,000 "likes," which often posts multiple photos a day of firearms for sale. In a statement on its Facebook page Wednesday, Guns For Sale said it was designed to aid legal firearm sales. "We applaud Facebook for taking a deeper look into this issue," the statement said.

Danny Herrera submitted a photo of a rifle for sale that was posted by the Guns For Sale page on Monday. Herrera, who lives in Southern California, said he plans to sell the gun legally, through a gun shop, and would require the buyer to act through a gun shop. Herrera said he previously sold a gun legally on Facebook.

Craigslist, eBay (EBAY) and Google (GOOG) have policies against users posting about weapons for sale. Google+, which, like Facebook, is not an e-commerce site, lists this policy on its site: "Our service is not ready to support the marketing of any regulated products at this time. Do not facilitate the promotion or sale of pharmaceuticals, alcohol, tobacco, fireworks, weapons, or health/medical devices."

In the blog post, Facebook said it would continue to enforce a long-standing prohibition against advertising guns or ammunition on the network. Monika Bickert, Facebook's head of global policy management, told reporters on Wednesday, "We've never allowed advertising the sale of guns and ammunition."

But several gun-shop owners said they had advertised on Facebook, and were puzzled by the rules.

"They didn't have a problem taking my money, and now all of a sudden they have a problem with my business," said Chris Kurzadkowski, founder of Battle Rifle Co. of Houston, which makes and sells assault rifles.

Kurzadkowski said Facebook's ad policies on guns "really frustrated me." He said Battle Rifle has advertised its Facebook page and promoted posts on Facebook, but Facebook had rejected a promoted post that praised the Marine Corps.

Sandra Simpson, co-owner of B&S Guns and Ammo of Lufkin, Texas, said Facebook ran a monthslong ad campaign for her gun store in 2013. Her Facebook page posts photos of guns for sale at her store along with prices of the guns.

The Facebook spokesman said the best way to characterize the policy is "There are times when brick-and-mortar gun stores can advertise on Facebook."

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Mar 6, 2014 1:27PM
F-ck Facebook!!! Don't those idiots know that most of America are true Americans who honor our Constitution and our 2nd Amendment Rights. Unlike the lunatic leftists like Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Bloomberg and the likes.
Mar 6, 2014 1:31PM
Mar 6, 2014 1:28PM
One man asks another " Hey, man, are you on facebook", other man replies, "No, dude, I'm straight"!
Mar 6, 2014 1:59PM
Brought to you by...democratic liberal trash. The same people who depend on everything from the government. The same people who can't make it n their own. The real reason America is dying.
Mar 6, 2014 1:24PM
When the populous discovers who is at the helm of Facebook................it will render it useless and obsolete within 5 years.
Mar 6, 2014 2:28PM
Zuckerberg just doesn't see a 'need' for guns, he has never been mugged or attacked even once in his limousine. 

C'mon, what's the matter with you 'gun people'?,..Just go out and get yourselves a limo and security team to follow you around 24/7.

Who needs guns?
Mar 6, 2014 2:13PM

A person to person transfer is not illegal,right now,unless its done interstate(not sure on that though). So facebook is cracking down on a legal acivity?

Mar 6, 2014 3:04PM
facebook stinks, if you have an account with these jerks, they know everything about you and sell that information alot of folks have been fired are gotten into trouble on all these social media sights. most of you jerks that are on these sights are nothing but a bunch of keyboard junkies and talking crap about other people.
Mar 6, 2014 1:11PM
Who the hell uses Facebook anymore? (Yeah I know they have a bunch of members but are they actually uising it??) I have talked to all of my neices and nephews and NONE of them use Facebook....kids no longer think it is cool. Facebook was and ALWAYS has been a fad....I have a made a lot of money talking to kids....u would be amazed what information kids can give you...adults dont know s%^t about whats cool and whats kids are doing especially if you dont have any...dam straight I watch what the kids are into and invest accordingly.
Mar 6, 2014 3:11PM

     It's a simple calculation, If you go to work, go to church, marry a good woman who has a good character, You won't need the handouts and **** the demos are giving to the one's who are the opposite of the above.

     Now their trying to keep the iron shaped cross found at the trade center from being placed in the museum. Isn't it time we demand the majority of the people instead of the liberal bastards we have now. Maybe everyone is to worried about cell phones up some chicks skirt. 

Mar 6, 2014 2:48PM
I won't use face book, Ebay or paypal all are anti-gun 
Mar 6, 2014 3:02PM

Next will be a liberal bill that wants to stop all gun advertising online.



Mar 6, 2014 3:34PM
Mar 6, 2014 3:11PM

LOL this is funny they will restrict under 18 from seeing ads..


 Funny I know a few kids that lied about their age to get on FaceJunk...



Good luck with that FaceJunk......



Mar 6, 2014 3:56PM
 facebook is now the gun police & our moral compass and will decide what we can legally buy & sell? this is crap! now it is illegal to buy or sell gun PARTS and/or holsters?  Facebook needs to go the way of my space!
Mar 6, 2014 3:55PM

If the activity really is illegal, shouldn’t Facebook be notifying the authorities before they just cancel the ads? Otherwise, isn’t Facebook effectively concealing evidence of what they believe to be possible criminal behavior?

Every controversial issue like this one that Facebook tries to take on seems to end up with Facebook hypocritically contradicting and conflicting with itself.

Who are they really trying to protect? I say they’re most interested in protecting Facebook.

Mar 6, 2014 2:35PM
What a crock of CRAP! They won't take down this picture, in spite of complaints.   https://www.facebook.com/PAIndyWrestling/photos/a.550091708341935.135834.548552928495813/702390339778737/?type=1
Mar 6, 2014 2:23PM
And Facebook is using their rights to do this.  A social site that young people use should not be allowing the promotion of guns. 

Dude818 you must be in a cancelled room such as jail. Facebook is used by me and 100,s I know not inclining a billion more. You don't have a life. I all you have on your mind is kids I think you should get help.

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