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5 big names that can't keep growing

You know them, and you may own them. But large public companies like Procter & Gamble and AT&T have topped out.

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May 10, 2013 5:44AM

Could be Americans without jobs are not buying products and services like times of old..?

When working part time jobs at near minimum wage, it doesn't leave much left over after paying for the basics...FYI...Its gonna get Worst when oblamocare kicks in full time..Beware Americans...!

May 10, 2013 8:19AM

One of the most common fallacies of unbridled capitalism is that companies will grow and grow and grow forever.

I think this is a cool study regarding the natural limitations of capitalism.

Nothing lasts forever.

Corporations, humans and even stars in the sky have birth, life & death cycles.



May 10, 2013 8:22AM
maybe I am crazy but I feel that continuous growth is a dream they sell to lure investors.
May 8, 2013 4:53PM
If Steve Jobs could come back for a visit after everybody had left for the day, and look and see how there stock has fallen off the cliff, no really hot items, getting ready to hit the market, but still have a mountain of CASH, in the bank,he would say ,My company has become a stagnant organization,
where are the THINKERS,where are the INNOVATORS, I believe he would go BALLISTIC !
When a company runs out of ideas, is no longer an innovator in there expertise, they should just close their doors, this writer has bought there stock twice,and made money both times .
With the cash they have on hand,they could hire anybody they wanted,they need the kind of employees that thinks OUTSIDE THE BOX!!!!!!
May 10, 2013 8:23AM
Dell involves more than computers. It has sent the computer manufacturing offshore. It is sending it's software development offshore. Michael Dell is behind these moves. He may B.S. the uninformed, but not everyone. If American's do not have jobs, they can't buy computers. DUH!
I wouldn't count on this company being around much longer. Old school mentality in a new school world!!

May 7, 2013 8:03PM
Meg Whitman come on now.  Maybe if she wasn't concentrating on her own salary.
May 10, 2013 3:41AM
No... because every culprit wants a f..king fat salary that's why...
May 10, 2013 7:55AM
I get really, really, really, angry with so called "experts,"  making broad, over reaching general statements like these. They do so generally, not for your benefit, but to protect their own interests, and manipulate by influence the various markets, and will generally lie whenever it benefits them. I learned the hard way, always do your own research!!!
May 10, 2013 9:26AM

The biggest problem with most big companies is that they think they can continue in the same old way.

AT&T for example made the decision to lower their customers internet bandwidth amount and charge a higher price for what they can get. This instead of updating the necessary equipment to insure unlimited internet for their customers. It was explained to me by a AT&T company rep that they had to change their pricing plan because some customers were using more than their share. When I replied that I'd like to know who made the decision of what was the allowable share. She replied that the equipment just couldn't handle the loads some placed on it. AT&T is losing the wireless battle for the same reasons not updating equipment. Heck, they even pioneered the wireless ability we use today. Yes I know updating equipment cost big time money but if you want to stay the best available in your venue it requires capital investment. My dad was a very big believer in the, "If you build the best available, your customers will show up in droves."  He worked at AT&T until he finally retired because no one wanted to listen about changing with demand. Seems they should have listened.

May 9, 2013 5:13AM
Let me know when Walmart makes the list.
May 8, 2013 10:33AM
Is this really a shocker. When your company has saturated the market to the point that you have a presence everywhere the only way to raise profits is to cater to the people that don't shop at your stores or to increase the population.  Meaning the best way to increase profits is to cut costs and employees are number 1 on that list for companies this big because they control the demand that drives the prices of the suppliers.
May 8, 2013 11:19AM

It's the law of diminishing returns.  For example, depending on the stress &/or physical exertion required, the average job is best done in 8 hours per day, with a maximum of 40 per week.  Go over that, & production falls off just as fast as going under.

Put too much money into, well, anything, go beyond a certain point, & results are increasingly discouraging.  Profitability falls off, production declines, quality suffers, etc.  Remember the objections to welfare, socialism, etc.?

Am I using "etc." too much?

May 10, 2013 8:54AM

I've had the fortune (?) to have worked for three of the companies on this list.  They all certainly belong on this list.


Dell - saw their day-to-day workings as a contractor for about a year.  Yes they're in a saturated, low-margin industry.  But their management is also a sorry mess.  When you're in a low-margin business you can't afford the waste and lassie-fare attitude they have. 


AT&T – also contracted there for a couple years, and had several family members there.  Their biggest problem is their retired-in-place workforce, and resting upon past accomplishments, is more important than innovation and development.  This company is fading as its old jaded workforce finally retires.


HP – contracting there now.  HP years ago forgot and scuttled what made it great – technology leadership.  They’re best known for PC peripherals, which they’ve also let slide.  They’re trying to reinvent themselves as a software management company but it’s not working well.  They could do better if they trimmed a couple layers of redundant management, but good luck with that.

May 8, 2013 11:35AM
Lockheed Martin & General Dynamics are very solid companies for investment. While Doug McIntyre & Brian Zajac(sounds like a game show host) point out the sequester, it's only one point in time and does not look towards the future development of new technologies or hardware that will be emerging very soon in the next few years. Remember where you heard it first !
May 11, 2013 11:52AM
Birth Growth Maturity Decline Death. As these giants crossed over Maturity into Decline, they shipped jobs overseas, sold assets and rewarded the Board members and Executive body. How could ANY possibly recover without most of the parts that made them what they are, or anything tangible? These businesses are heavily invested-in, but they have nothing.
May 10, 2013 7:56AM

The issue i have with P&G is that the coupons always want you to buy two to get the bargain when people can hardly afford one. Come on.....common sense will tell you that buying one item is too much and to use a coupon buying two...insane. Someone is not aware that the economy is struggling.

May 8, 2013 12:59PM
how about diversity in products that save
how could you NOT have included pfizer in this mix of ineptitude?
May 10, 2013 7:55AM

can't wait till walmart goes belly up.. 

people claim to not support slavery, buy they shop there.. at the china warehouse..

HAY SHEEP, if you bought American made, everyone would have a job..

don't have to build rockets to see that..

wake up sheep..

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