Open-carry fight moves to Kroger

The advocacy group Moms Demand Action is calling on the grocery chain to ban guns from stores.

By MSN Money Partner Aug 18, 2014 12:48PM
Kroger logo on a grocery cart (© Brian Christopher/Demotix/Demotix/Corbis)By Ben Geier, Fortune

Kroger (KR) is the latest retailing chain to be dragged into the battle over gun rights.


The anti-open carry advocacy group Moms Demand Action has issued a statement calling on the grocery company to ban openly-carried firearms in its stores.


In a press release, the group calls out President and COO Michael Ellis and CEO W. Rodney McMullen to ban open carry in Kroger stores. The call comes after pro-open carry activists brought guns into Kroger stores while grocery shopping, a tactic that has drawn the ire of Moms Demand Action before.


A Kroger spokesman referred to an official statement on the companies website which says that Kroger's "long standing policy on this issue is to follow state and local laws and to ask customers to be respectful of others while shopping."


Moms Demand Action has launched campaigns against other retailers in the past several months, including Target (TGT), which asked customers not to bring in guns, but did not ban them outright, and Chipotle (CMG), which decided to not allow open carry in restaurants. Home Depot (HDhas also been a part of the open-carry battle.


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Aug 18, 2014 1:41PM
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I am an NRA member, and understand that gun rights protect our fundamental human rights.  With that said, people who open carry are douchebags.  Not that they should be restricted from openly carrying, but this isn't Somalia, where if you don't go to the grocery store with your AK-47, you're going to get robbed and killed.  Actually, if someone was going to rob you, they know right off the bat they have to kill you first.  Private businesses have every right to say you can't come in here with your AR-15 because you're scaring away customers.  If you're going to carry, do it concealed.  That way no liberals get pissed off, and nobody will give you a 2nd thought.  Fighting for your right to carry doesn't involve intimidating liberals with your guns.  You're just throwing fuel on their fire.
Aug 18, 2014 1:26PM
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Legally concealed, yes, open carry...unnecessary.
Aug 18, 2014 2:40PM
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When you see video of a huge thug strong arm robbing an honest merchant, then see low life thugs looting the same store out of "retaliation" it makes a person feel like they might need to protect them selves at some point.


On a side note, I would never visit St. Louis.

Aug 18, 2014 2:27PM
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If they were truly worried about it, they would all go to Chicago and walk the streets to prevent kids from shooting each other down in the streets.
That would be a useful service to society.

Aug 18, 2014 1:30PM
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Moms Demand Action = hipplie liberals with too much time on there hands.  Get a life!
Aug 18, 2014 2:31PM
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Every had a gun put to your head while delivering by a young gang kid that doesn't care about life.   I DID, OC and CC protect the innocent and make punks think twice.   Wish they would have cc permits in Ohio 35 years ago.
Aug 18, 2014 2:03PM
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If we could figure out how to convince the bad guys to give up their guns, and promise to stop robbing grocery stores, convenience stores, liquor stores, etc. no one would need to carry a gun for safety.  Unfortunately there are lots of bad guys out there who would shoot you for your sneakers.  If a Moms Demand Action member is ever involved in a robbery or assault involving a gin, they might all come back to reality, and realize that there are bad guys who will hurt them as soon as anybody else.
Aug 18, 2014 1:27PM
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Maybe everybody would feel better if concealed carry was required instead.
Aug 18, 2014 1:29PM
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To the Moms Demand Action, If you're a professional go back to work, if you're not then go back home and raise your family, in either case STFU about other peoples constitutional rights.
Aug 18, 2014 3:16PM
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I have no problem with people owning guns, (think there should be a mandatory background check to make sure you aren't a criminal or crazy). I know a lot of police who carry their gun no matter where they go (concealed) but open carry confuses me. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I personally will not go into any store, restaurant etc that allows open carry.  to get a concealed permit is hard, rightfully so, and thus if a person is carry a concealed weapon the likelihood of them pulling it out and shooting anyone is quite slim. The open carry idiots, and yes if you carry an AK-47 on your back going grocery shopping you are an idiot, I don't trust them to know how to handle a gun safely, because let's face it you thing taking an AK-47 into a grocery store is a good idea, you are not to be trusted with anything let alone a gun.
Aug 18, 2014 2:03PM
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I am Pro2...but open carry? Not sure I agree.Do not see the sense, really

Like skimpy clothes...leave a little to the imagination, at least.LOL

Aug 18, 2014 2:23PM
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Open carry is the legal way to carry per the second amendment, I open carried in my teens walking to the town dump to shoot rats, we can't do that now because  everyone is afraid of those who use guns legally ! This is how moronic our country has become, trust me in 10 years you will wish to see a gun at the present rate of submission you blindly allow each year 
Aug 18, 2014 1:35PM
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Moms Demand Action?  They act more like "Moms Who Need Servicing".
Aug 18, 2014 2:29PM
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I have seen a deranged meth head attack someone at the grocery store, and on another occasion a convicted felon attempted to carjack a woman in the parking lot at gunpoint.  And this is in a nice part of town.  I never open carry, but almost always am carrying concealed.  I'll be danged if I stop carrying when I'm going out for a gallon of milk.
Aug 18, 2014 1:27PM
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I really don't need a gun when I shop.
Aug 18, 2014 2:20PM
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So guns are always bad and people are always good ????????? Is life that simple ?
Aug 18, 2014 1:12PM
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Yes please don't shoot anyone in our Kroger Stores even if they grabbed the best bunch of broccoli!

Yuk yuk!
Aug 18, 2014 3:16PM
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Concealed carry, absolutely, open carry depends on situation and location. (state, City etc.).But must be done with caution and discretion.
Aug 18, 2014 4:23PM
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Open carry with a revolver or semi-auto handgun is one thing.  However when you start bringing AR-15's, AK-47's and 12 gauge riot guns into a public domain you are more than likely to make people a little nervous.  The average person will see these kind of weapons as "heavy artillery".

As for open carry itself, although lawful and a 2nd Amendment right has its drawbacks.  First off, it does let the bad guy/girl know you are healed so he/she is apt to shoot first if he/she is so inclined.  
Then there is the matter of "appearance".  If I am wearing a clean dress shirt and a clean pair of slacks, my hair is groomed and my mustache is trimmed nobody seems to notice the .40 on my hip. But if I look like I just returned from a Hell's Angel's convention, I can assure you that same .40 will create a lot of havoc and probably bring a police car to the scene.

Sound judgement and perception are the keys to open carry, if you are so inclined.  Me, I have a CCW and carry concealed 99% of the time...no worry, no issues.

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MDA members need to spend more time in the bedroom and out of people's constitutional rights debates.
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