The nat gas revolution begins
Thanks to this pair of coinciding events, it's happening in trucks -- finally -- right now.
When we look at the tipping point as to what caused U.S. trucking companies to switch from diesel to liquefied natural gas en masse, it will be an odd one. Indeed, it will be when the oil bottleneck in Cushing, Oklahoma, was eliminated and West Texas Intermediate rose to the world crude price, instead of the world crude price coming down. That, combined with the mass production of the 12-liter Cummins (CMI) truck engine, will have made LNG too cheap not to switch to it.That's what Sam Thomas, the CEO of Chart Industries (GTLS) -- which is at the heart of the natural gas revolution -- told me when we chatted Tuesday night (TheStreet). Those two events simply made the whole deal too economic to not do. That price differential eliminated any hope, in the minds of the big shippers, that diesel would come down enough to render it reasonable to stick to it vs. a fuel half its price. Truckers, after all, would now be relying on Cummins to produce the engine that burns it. Reliability and inexpensive fuel made a value proposition come true, and without any government monkeying around the subsidies needed.
How fast will it happen? It only took seven years for diesel to go from being a pretty unknown fuel to being the only fuel for trucks. Sam says it will pretty much be the same for nat gas when the infrastructure's built out. The big change here, by the way, is that all of the major gas station owners are talking about having LNG tanks, according to Sam. Chart, moreover, has a huge backorder of on-the-go filling stations for those who want to turn their fleets from diesel to natural-gas-burning vehicles. Sam says that, if we measure the adoption by looking at the percentage of new nat gas trucks being ordered, we will be able to grasp the enormity of the change.
How about cars? That's much tougher, Sam points out, because the car companies are always getting new mandates from the government: more gasoline mileage, more ethanol, more electric. They don't want to offer any more different kinds of vehicles if they can avoid it.
But trucks? It's happening right now.
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LNG will be popular until the banks and hedge funds gin up the price. Then of course, they will hold seminars and buy TV ads "advising" the rest of us to take long positions so they can sell and start the process all over again.
Then the producers will raise and lower output according to pre-determined price targets set by the big banks.
The whole process would more closely mirror actual supply/demand if commodity prices were set between producer and user only, the way the Dutch set it up 400 years ago. Blame Congress for accepting bribes (sorry, campaign contributions) to eliminate the wall between banking activities.
Isn't Ford coming out with a natural gas F150 pick up truck?
About an "evil" "white" investor who gets called by failing business to examine their business , offer advise and buy into it, if he wishes.
The show I saw last was about a famous florist in Pasadena that is losing money every month. Huge business for retail florist, doing almost $4 Million.
The son , now in his 40's took over the family run, highly successful business after the dad died and surprise---, ran it into the ground.
A complete mommas boy , feminine , whining, lets the retired mother finance the losses
He must be an Obuma voter for sure.
Now he wants help.
The Profit comes along offers great advise, pumps $150, 000 into the business (looks like on a handshake)
remodels the stores , advise the son how to buy product right , to increase his pricing structure , puts GPS in all the vans , re decals all the vans. The store looks great.
What happens . well, the punk , feminine son , decides that Profit didn't do right by him and voids the agreement AND wants to keep the $150,000.
Nice, right ?
It occurred to me that there is no honor in this world , a verbal agreement mean nothing to most , although, it means everything to me. It also confirms my long time theory, of California men being feminine , incompetent and too preoccupied with their vanity to succeed. No honor, all about them. A big portion of the demon cat base, too. What a surprise , failed business people , beg for help, then bite the hands that feeds them.
A big generalization, I know , but just think how many left douche bags live in CA , LOL !!!
There is a reason why the state is broke.
cramer likes his natural gas! he must be trying to sell....
i can see or understand however how a construction job site might like using LARGE natural gas tanks to top off the tanks of all their equipment.
we know the regular gas station infrastructure can't support this for cars and trucks. but a construction site can. along with continued EPA regulations on diesel fuel, switching to natural gas can help that industry. they also gain bragging rights for inner city construction jobs.
i heard - never confirmed - that natural gas engines last far longer than gas or diesel engines. if that is true, then these industrial vehicles and last far longer than before earning more return for their purchase price.
Hard to stop laughing right now.. Apple could go to 700... but we all have read the Apple is Dead articles and they have NOTHING ready for roll-out. Does anybody else see today's Red Banner and Top Header news about Apple as a Billionaire Ploy to get losers like YOU to buy Apple so they can sell their positions higher? I mean REALLY... give Icahn a ZERO for effort here!
Meanwhile... Macy's is dragging the market lower. It isn't every sane person on Earth liquidating ahead of the CRASH, is it? We need a replacement for Big Media.
This has already been tried and everybody seems to have forgot. They tried using LP gas in the 70's when the price of gasoline went up to $2.00 a gallon (drool), due to the arabs.
What they found was that with the few vehicles that were equipped it cost $1,500 to change over, (then), and that the risk of explosions due to leaks was far more deadly. Also during a crash gasoline can catch fire, however, in most cases just leaks on the ground. OTOH, if there is a leak of LP in the tank, unlikely, or in the gas lines, very likely, LP is far more dangerous than gasoline.
Course I do remember just a few years back all the wonderful ethanol that's going to be made from corn. Course now they figured out ethanol corn field to tank is dirtier than gasoline oil well to tank. Not to mention the price of corn has gone up considerably.
Yeah go out there and buy up all that LP stock, you can put it with your ethanol companies.
NatGas.........Is an interim technology, that will probably have it's day in the Sun...
LP or propane was installed and put into several usages years back, vehicles, BBQ cooking etc.
Some of the Utility companies I think may have converted trucks to one or the other...?
They even had signage touting usage of NG or LPNG.
The Government's Fleets were another experiment...In a limited capacity.
I can certainly see Electric (battery) or Hybrids in smaller vehicles, as a force to reckon with.
But heavier hauling, needs power; And batteries wouldn't seem to have that and any lasting capability for the long haul..
Although Trains (locomotives) function as such, they are based on much different concept of combinations...Big powerful electric motors, powered by big powerful diesel engines.
As soon as NG was/is applied as a source for energy and travel...I'm sure we would see pricing that would be comparable to other forms of fuel or power.
Yeah DLH....I wasn't even going to relate to the Power or Electric producers (Power plants)..
That use of NG, much of that change occurred I think back in the 70s-80s due to oil embargos and/or EPA regulations to get away from Coal....The "clean air initiatives."
Not really sure, but think...??
Some of those plants have the ability to burn both or more than one kind of fuel.
Thanks to (someone-Haggas)...For expanding on the rest of the story, as I remember it also.
It never caught hold before, because of the bugs that he mentioned...
And then big oil got some sense; Tensions eased.
And Americans went right back to sucking on the oil teat, as always.
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