Hollywood's brewing war against Redbox

More studios are worried that kiosk rentals cut into their DVD sales.

By Kim Peterson Jun 7, 2012 2:35PM
Image: Watching television (© image100/Corbis)Should rental companies like Redbox be allowed to offer movies as soon as they come out on DVD?

Redbox thinks so. But Hollywood studios are in fits over the idea. And that friction is creating a war between Redbox and Disney (DIS).

Walt Disney Studios is refusing to sell any DVDs to Redbox, Netflix (NFLX) and other rental companies until 28 days after they go on sale, The Los Angeles Times reports. This is a change from past practice, in which Disney sold DVDs to Redbox the same day the discs hit stores.

Disney is clearly worried that it won't sell as many DVDs in that first month if people could rent them. "The switch indicates that the Burbank media giant has adopted the view held by Warner, Universal Pictures and 20th Century Fox that $1.20 per night rentals from Redbox cut into more profitable DVD sales and video-on-demand rentals," writes Ben Fritz of the Times.

So what did Redbox, owned by Coinstar (CSTR), do in response? It sent employees out to retail stores to buy "John Carter" and other DVDs. And then it added those DVDs to its rental kiosks. Redbox coyly says it's getting the movies through "alternative means."

"John Carter" came out in stores on June 5. Redbox says it will have the DVD for rent by June 12.

Redbox has been willing to work with Hollywood in the past. It holds off on Universal and the Newscorp-owned (NWS) 20th Century Fox movies for the first month because it eventually buys the DVDs from those studios at a big discount, Fritz reports.

But Redbox is less agreeable with Disney and Warner Bros., owned by Time Warner (TWX). It's buying Warner DVDs from the store after Warner asked it to wait a whopping 56 days to offer DVDs for sale.

Netflix, by the way, has been willing to play nice with Hollywood because it doesn't count on new releases for much of its business. Netflix emphasizes its streaming videos over disc rental, and it doesn't much care if customers can't rent "John Carter" for a month. At least, it doesn't care enough to do battle with Hollywood.

Redbox is developing its own streaming service with Verizon, estimated to cost around $6 per month. For more information on that service, see the following video.

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For now, Redbox's business model relies much more on new releases. It needs a current lineup for those spontaneous rentals at drugstores and convenience stores. It needs "John Carter" so much, in fact, that it's willing to sacrifice the discount it normally gets from the studios in order to have the movie early.

There isn't much that Hollywood can do in retaliation.

Deadline.com has an interesting discussion in the comments about this issue. Here's what some observers are saying:
  • "Studios should make the window reasonable so Redbox and others would volunteer to keep it, because in the end Redbox has every right to rent the DVDs when they become available to the public, if they’re willing to pay the same price."
  • "The real problem here is that Redbox isn’t revenue-sharing. They're basically like your buddy that buys a DVD and then loans it out to everyone. That disc finds itself in 4 or 5 different homes."
  • "Consumers that are going to buy are going to buy consumers that are going to rent are going to rent, and people that are going to steal on [BitTorrent] are going to do that, nothing is going to change."
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196Comments
Jun 7, 2012 3:55PM
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Red Box days are numbered so the argument is mute!
Jun 7, 2012 3:53PM
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Business is business, and it sounds like Redbox is gettin it done....  Shame the studios can't or just don't want to work with them....
Jun 7, 2012 3:52PM
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Jesse Long - You are right Disney quality movies are more like Summit films now Summit more like Disney.  Summit use to put out some stank B level A rated movies.  Now, with the help of the likes of Twilight and big stars on their payrolls, Summit is making a run for the tops.  Disney however, keeps piling on the poo with the rest of them, FOX especially.  How many different Ice Age movies must we make before we give up? How many times can Disney make the same crappy princess movies before someone catches on to the fact that it's the same garbage in a different dress and hair color? I mean come on.  I LOVE the good old fashioned Disney movies and so do my kids, but my kids won't even watch Disney movies, nor Disney Channel, because every movie and show is the same garbage.  Hollywood needed to let their ignorant, un-original, non-creative writers stay on strike a few years ago and hire all raw off the street talent.  I know 3rd graders who could write a better narrative and plot line that I won't be able to decipher better than any writer in Hollywood.  Give up the age old writing tactics and let's come up with an 18th plot lone basis PLEASE! And no, reality tv and documentaries are NOT plot line based, they are garbage too. Thanks!
Jun 7, 2012 3:48PM
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Actually, back in the VHS rental days the studios would sell to the video stores first at an outrageous cost of about $70 per copy. Then about 60 days later mass merchants would have it available for sale for about $20. I know, I had a video store then.  The consumer liked it because it was a "try before you buy" situation. Studios loved it because they were maxing out the video stores. Agree with comment above that says,basically, a renter rents and a buyer buys. Personally, there are very few movies I would pay $20 to watch over and over.
Jun 7, 2012 3:44PM
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The Sad thing is what this says about society. About how the consumer is so driven to HAVE to watch the movie THEE DAY it comes out that companies are willing to blow Thousands - Millions of dollars to fight about this. It's stupid! 
 
Besides, if a movie comes out today and Redbox has it today - as my luck would have it I'd have to drive 150 miles to find one machine that still has it available. I would not do that. I would rent one of the other movies on my list that I want to see and wait till whenever the others are available.
(dare I say show exercise a little patience.... eeek!)

Jun 7, 2012 3:29PM
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As far as I'm concerned, the studios are shooting themselves in the foot.  I will not buy a copy of a movie I haven't seen.  The prices at the theater are so outrageous, I won't go to the theater.  If I forget the movie by the time it gets to Redbox, I won't see it and therefore won't buy it (see statement number 1.)  If I do see the rental, and like it, I WILL buy it; It will soon disappear from Redbox to never be rented.  I do not use streaming as we need closed-captioning, and the new releases do not have it enabled in the streaming format.  Therefore I don't purchase as many movies as I could.
Jun 7, 2012 3:15PM
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Still trying to rip off the client, well Disney you have met your match.
Jun 7, 2012 2:48PM
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Disney, please tell me why you're waiting up until now to be filing lawsuits against DVD kiosk owners instead of laying down the gauntlet at video stores thirty years ago?  Could it be that your products are becoming increasingly shoddy and/or overpriced and ditto for the other companies, too?  Well, regardless of the reason, your actions prove to be very greedy and you've essentially closed the barn door after all of the horses have escaped.  Too little, too late, and too bad for you crybabies.
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