Boehner's defeat is no big deal
The House Speaker couldn't deliver the votes of his own caucus. But in a perverse way, that's good news for fixing the fiscal cliff.
Surely you didn't expect global financial markets to react positively to Thursday night's debacle in the House of Representatives?
At the time of this writing, Jim Jubak didn't own shares of any companies mentioned in this post in personal portfolios. The mutual fund he manages, Jubak Global Equity Fund (JUBAX), may or may not own positions in any stock mentioned. The fund did not own the shares of any company mentioned in this post as of the end of September. For a full list of the stocks in the fund as of the end of the most recent quarter, see the fund's portfolio here. The truth is what Boehner did was in part to show the democrats that the republicans have no more interest in their offer then the democrats had in the republicans. This is not a sign of weakness but rather a sign of strength. If the president wants to avoid the fiscal cliff he needs to accept what is being offered, not what he wants. Eliminating tax deductions for cuts in spending, end of story. Now lets discuss the tax issue the has the press, or should I say Obama cheer leaders, so excited. The problem is that they are wrong about who isn't paying their fair share. Here is the facts..
The bottom 50% of taxpayers are the ones that need to start paying their fair share. The top 50% pay 97 percent of all federal income taxes collected. Americans keep voting in leaders who are bankrupting our nation while they misrepresent the truth about taxes. There is a very simple remedy to this problem, its called a Balanced Budget Amendment. It missed being passed by a couple of votes during the Bush administration with zero democrat support. They can’t buy elections if they are forced to balance a budget. Here is the truth. The top 1 percent of tax filers earned 18.9 percent of national income and paid 37.4 percent of all income taxes. Meanwhile, the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers earned 11.7 percent of national income, but paid just 2.4 percent of all income taxes. The 1 percent coughed up 16 times this amount. Now who isn’t paying their fair share??
Demanding that the U.S. Congress and the White House continue the decades long corrupt Washington practice of compromising to “get a deal done” by bargaining away our liberties is the very embodiment of insanity.
This is the regimen that has evolved the federal government into the resource consuming
monster we endure today; consuming our lives with each successful fear-based appeal to the public to effectively maintain the suicidal status quo.
The fiscal cliff is the latest from the Washington panic circus and a complicit press. An economic model dependent on federal spending — taxing and printing money — is institutionally corrupt and weak. Each of us is responsible for our own lives.
The answers will come from we the people within the context of our local communities. Who better knows what is needed and where?
Let us not humor these hooligans any further.
If you want to make a lasting positive difference, get your congressional delegation to reduce taxes and cut federal spending even more. Demand they no longer vote for any increases in the debt limit. This will automatically force the President into responsible allocation of available
revenues.
In the current movie on Abraham Lincoln, President Lincoln gets opposition party Congressmen to support his bill (the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery) through Congress. Yes, Lincoln gave political favors, bought or rented votes, to opposition Democratic, pro-slavery Congressmen, but he won. IMO, Abe Lincoln was the best U.S. president ever.
I don't get Obama and the Democrats approach to getting a budget: if all 195 or so Democratic Congressmen vote for the Obama budget plan, then Obama needs to get only about 30 Republican Congressmen to either vote Yes or to Abstain. Why aren't Obama and Nancy Pelosi courting Republican Congressmen who will vote for a reasonable budget? There are conservative Republicans who will vote for the budget.
Obama needs to influence, cajole, and yes "rent" Republican votes. Lincoln did it; so did Reagan, Kennedy, LBJ, and other effective presidents. Then the Democrats will own the budget and cannot keep blaming Republicans.
Grow up, Democrats and Republicans. We are a democracy; make a deal for the good of the country and move on.
Wow Jim....I didn't realize that you were such a moron.
There is never going to be an agreement that a big majority of dems want that will ever pass the house.
The only way there is going to be an agreement is to have the balanced approach to minimal tax rate hikes tied to 2-1 or 3-1 spending vs tax hikes that are real cuts and take affect the same time as the rate hikes not 10 years down the road as most politicans do to us which the result always leads to no cuts.
There should be no agreement without a clear and concise plan to reduce the debt, otherwise what do you really get for the rate increase other than more wasteful spending.
We are already over the cliff, the fact that you don't know that says how much in the know you really are.....your writing shows you are just more of the same tax and spend bunch that wants to get rich off our dollars and waste it all.
I dunno Jubaki, I think the "Fiscal Cliff" is a big DEAL....I just think "a warning shot is being fired across the Bow" and "the fat lady hasn't sung."
For one....The American citizen loses more confidence in it's Government and Wall St....
Many investors will be scared out of investing for a longer period....
Traders and Wall Street will try and prove they are a "big deal "....
We very well could step back into another or worst recession....
The jobs picture will get muddied more or worst...
Inflation might/will probably start rearing it's ugly head....
More American money will probably wander off-shore...
We could have 2-4 more years of Partisan bickering....
Traders will probably make about 3-6% during the bickering within 30 days to 3 months....
And the solid investors will get hurt at least for the time being...
As it all unwinds it will eventually pass, but it will still hurt in the short term...
Yeah, Jim I think it is a big deal....AND that is without a DOWNGRADE or a DEFAULT.
and here I thought we would actually have a deal before "D" day...Silly me..
Boner is actually a joke and he proved that to the World yesterday...Sure did to me.
WE the People are required to fix it.
[REIN IN BIG GOVERNMENT OVERREACH]
Poor foresight by all Americans regarding Washington legislation have created decades of inept policies. A simple, strategic, powerful fix to jump start the process:
28th constitutional amendment: Yearly Balanced Budget Required
Balanced definition:
Debt to GDP ratio
>35% = balanced
<35% = allow 10% extra yearly spending
This will not be easy to get congress to enact. The good news is we don’t need Washington to move this: The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.
It will take only one state to get the ball rolling!!!!!!! A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION!!!!!!!
The GOP is collapsing!
Republican Retards, Teabagger Turds and Libertarian Lunatics arguing amongst themselves!
The Stock Market is crashing!
The Mayans we're right, Republican Armageddon has arrived and their pathetic lives are being destroyed,..... by themselves. LMAO
Boehner with an 11% approval rating!
LIFE JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER! ;-)
Chris Van Hollen & Elizabeth Warren in 2016 & 2020!
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!
The million dollar and up tax hike was a Warren Buffett idea that Obama embraced until that offer was made, but that's Obama. During the preelection period, those who were awake and paying attention, we heard many dems. claim we needed to go back to Clinton era tax rates. Well guess were we could be going. The dems. just wanted a way to blame it on someone else. They are smarter than the repubs. in a political sense,
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