Dear RIM: Wall Street doesn't date losers

It's a study of investor confidence contrasts: Reaction to Research in Motion and earnings releases.

By TheStreet Staff Dec 21, 2012 2:27PM

Frustrated woman with mobile device copyright Jacqueline Veissid, Photodisc, Getty ImagesStreet logoBy Rocco Pendola

OK, so I stole the title from the New York Post back cover after the Yankees got booted from the playoffs. It just fits so well.

Research in Motion (RIMM) beat estimates, popped, then snapped back to reality. And, "Oh, there goes gravity."

Different rules apply to dogs like RIMM and best of breeds like (AMZN). It's fascinating to watch.

On Thursday, RIM reported a narrower-than-expected quarterly loss, the stock resumes trading in after-hours and rises considerably. It was funny -- as the report was released -- I was attending to my "Director of Social Media" duties for TheStreet and just assumed RIMM was down. Sure they "beat," I thought, but who in their right mind would get long an all-but-dead company with no new product coming until the end of January?

Reactionary investors -- that's who! My friend and TheStreet contributor Robert Weinstein immediately shorted RIMM in after hours and made out big. Because that's what Robert does -- he makes money by expertly reading (and fading) the emotional responses of fellow, unsuspecting market participants.

Robert got out of his short position before RIM's earnings call even started. However, if he wasn't such a disciplined trader, he would have let it ride and really made a killing. As is usual when RIM management speaks -- the stock tanks. It dumped by double digits to settle in the upper $12s.

Why? Why does this happen to RIM?

First, on the positive side, you have to give RIM CEO Thorsten Heins credit. He's not fronting the same smoke and mirrors as dog-and-pony trainers Balsillie and Lazaridis used to. Heins levels with investors, saying listen, We're excited about the BB 10 launch, we expect it to go well, but, no joke bro, we're going to have to spend money to eventually make money so we're going to lose $$ in the quarter.

Everything else is decidedly negative, particularly sentiment. And there's no reason for it not to be.

You have a delayed product. It might not be very good, though it probably is. Through this entire bearish mess, I have never had much of a problem with the BlackBerry, in and of itself. RIM makes solid devices; it just missed everywhere else and got blindsided by Apple (AAPL). Join the club.

The idea that RIM can just stroll into the office several years late with BlackBerry 10 and pick up where it left off is absurd. You have a better chance getting an NHL season in and a new franchise in Waterloo than of having a successful enough launch to salvage things.

When RIMM stopped being an obvious short, it became nothing more than -- as Doug Kass wrote on TheStreet -- "a trading sardine."

If you caught the double on this thing, you weren't good or smart, you were lucky. You played with fire and you didn't get burned. Try doing that as a strategy -- buying dogs and calling them value plays -- and you'll lose your bum on some of the greatest sucker stocks of years' past.

The opposite of RIMM -- AMZN.

The market reacts however it reacts to an Amazon earnings report. Up initially. Down initially. It really doesn't matter. If you buy just a few shares of this stock, from time to time, on the dips, you -- at least historically -- have become wealthier for your troubles.

Why? Why does this happen to AMZN?

Because there's very little uncertainty. Yes. Very little uncertainty. The bears, who do not have the guts to short AMZN, make you think the sky is falling in Seattle. It's not, man.

I put that lame act to rest Thursday on TheStreet in Absolutely Devastating News For Amazon?

When Amazon says we're going to lose money -- or some Wall Street analyst hack reduces Kindle Fire sales estimates -- investors do not worry. They support the stock at some relatively modest low. And then they bid it back up, irrespective of what that meaningless price-to-earnings ratio says.

If you have to ask what the price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) is before you buy a stock, you shouldn't be investing. That's right. Those days are long gone, particularly when it comes to names such as Amazon with class A management and a rapid cycle of reinvestment aimed at massive long-term opportunity. If you use the P/E for anything, consider it a gauge of investor confidence that management will execute, keep on delivering revenue and end up long-haul profitable.

It should come as no surprise that AMZN rises on "uncertainty" and RIMM tanks on false optimism. Even though they do not report back-to-back, the two companies provide an instructive comparison case for investors.

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Dec 21, 2012 4:53PM
What a garbage article. Wall Street doesn't date losers? Wall Street is made up of losers!

"All but dead" company?? RIM has almost 3 billion in cash, no debt, 79 million subscribers and a new OS 5 weeks away (sorry, but how you phrase it "..with no new product coming until the end of January" falsely makes it seem loke sooooo far away. Get a calendar and look at it, will you? 

"Losers"?? How about Wall Street analysts such as yourselves who have no idea what you're talking about yet rip up companies & destroy shareholder value by manipulating stock ? Where were you guys when the entire market collapsed so short a time ago? You guys COULD NOT EVEN PREDICT THE LARGEST COLLAPSE IN AMERICAN HISTORY SINCE THE CRASH OF 1929!!  Wall Street has about as much integrity and value-added as a door-to-door salesman, smoking a cigarette, selling powdered drinks that cure cancer. Doesn't date losers? Yah - sure.

Dec 21, 2012 5:07PM
Whoops - forgot. Rocco lives in California and is a rather strong iFan (as evidenced by his articles on Apple). My bad. I should not have railed the way I did.
Dec 22, 2012 12:27PM

Read report on tech radar.

New BB10 development model kills iphone 5 in every way.

Im a huge buyer of RIM shares and will buy more!

It will be one helluva ride til June next year though.

What with this idea that nothing can top an iphone.

Is this patriotism or stupidity.



Dec 21, 2012 8:52PM
Rimm needs to begin scooping up a few of their shares at these low prices.  A few million each quarter would do the trick.

Jim and Mike should buy some more as well.

Why do analysts not give their comments before the fact, and rather after the fact?
Rocco has been in hiding for awhile. He and his friend make money based on his bashing articles. So I wouldn't give his stories much weight.

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