Starbucks pulled into gun debate

The company says business is normal Tuesday even as groups promise action over its gun policies.

By Kim Peterson Feb 14, 2012 5:22PM
Starbucks (SBUX) has become the unlikely center of a Valentine's Day debate over U.S. gun laws.

A group that aims to reduce gun violence says it is boycotting the coffee giant Tuesday because Starbucks has not stopped customers from bringing guns into stores when the law allows it. Starbucks has the legal right to ban guns, the National Gun Victim's Action Council says. The group has sent an open letter to Starbucks with its complaints.

That boycott didn't sit well with some gun owners, and some said they would visit Starbucks Tuesday to show their support. The gun owners have even created their own "I love guns and coffee" shirts, with an image of a gun-totin' Starbucks mermaid mascot to boot.

Starbucks seems to be trying to stay out of the issue. The company, which complies with local gun-control laws, said that all of its U.S. stores are open Tuesday and business is normal.

"Our long-standing approach to this issue remains unchanged and we abide by the laws that permit open carry in 43 U.S. states," the company said in a statement. "Where these laws don't exist, openly carrying weapons in our stores is prohibited."

Investors were unfazed by the gun debate. Starbucks shares were essentially flat Tuesday, closing at $49.12.

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Feb 14, 2012 6:13PM
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"GUN-FREE ZONES" accomplish two things.
A) They disenfranchise law-abiding citizens.
B) They advertize to violent criminals that they will encounter very little resistance to their violent criminal acts.

I support law-abiding citizens, whether or not they choose to carry a firearm.
I support the second amendment as written. It is truly a national carry permit.
I support businesses who support and abide by the law, such as Starbucks, whose policy is to defer to state law where firearms are concerned.
I feel much safer knowing that there are people around me who are ready, willing and able to come to the defense of the innocent in the face of violent criminal acts.

God bless Starbucks, God bless law-abiding gun owners & God bless America!
Feb 14, 2012 5:49PM
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Blaming guns for violence is like blaming the alcohol makers for drunk driving.
Feb 14, 2012 7:41PM
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Blaming guns for crime is like blaming spoons for obesity or blaming cars for drunk drivers.  If you don't like gins, don't buy one.  But do not tell me that I should not  or can not have a gun which is absolutely covered under the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.  And NO....the Constitution is not "a breathing document".
Feb 14, 2012 7:31PM
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people
Feb 14, 2012 7:44PM
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Why would you have fire extinguishers in a coffee shop, or a first aid kit.......you really dont expect a fire or medical emergency just like you dont really expect a violent encounter......but if it occurs you want to have the tools available to best assist you in dealing with them...

Feb 14, 2012 7:55PM
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Starbucks may have the legal right to ban guns, but they also have the legal right to ALLOW guns.
Feb 14, 2012 7:43PM
Feb 14, 2012 7:45PM
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It's easily found facts that states that allow a carrying law have lower crimes rates and higher cases of people defending themselves and others.  You can count on the police to be everywhere and even they are for the people to carry.

 

States and countries that limit access to guns show increasing crime rates.

Feb 15, 2012 1:08PM
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--"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

George Washington

 

--"Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state."

  Thomas Jefferson

 

--"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson

 

--"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."

Thomas Jefferson

 

-- "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."

  Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (WWII Japanese Admiral)

Feb 15, 2012 1:31PM
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My primary function as an NRA Certified Firearms instructor is the education and protection of the innocent, the ignorant, and the ill informed.

 

Therefore, since I carry concealed,, along with my other brother and Sister LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, you may never know we are there, but we may be there when you need us most.

 

The sole reason Japan never invaded the US mainland was due to Admiral Yamamoto convincing the Emperor that there would be a gun behind every blade of grass

 

Us law abiding gun owners make up the largest army on earth.

 

and we WILL defend the Constitution of the United States form all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC

Feb 14, 2012 8:18PM
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I'm 100% behind Starbucks. I carry concealed most of the time with a legal permit to do so.  But as has been said numerous times, a firearm, carried openly or concealed, is only to be pulled as a means of last resort. And only as a defense against deadly force. Never for intimidation. If you pull it, you better be ready to use it for all of the right LEGAL reasons.

Why do I carry a weapon? Because I'm too young to die and too old for a butt whippin'

Feb 14, 2012 9:28PM
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Washington, Jefferson, Madison, all supported your 2nd amendment rights. Stalin, Lenin, and Mao, are all against them. Who would you rather stand with?
Feb 15, 2012 7:57AM
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Criminals and the Insane ignore gun laws.  Look no farther than the tragic killings in Norway.  Over 100 people killed in a country where firearms ownership is illegal.  In the US a felon cannot own a gun, has that stopped any crime.  If someone is willing to commit an armed robbery or deadly assult, do you think the gun law violation will stop them?  Chicago is a great example.  Gun ownership was illegal for 5 decades.  Did it stop any violence?

 

Guns laws are ignored by the criminal and insane elements.  They do not stop/prevent crime...

As Danton once said "Man has the rights he can defend"...  This is just as true today as 200+ years ago...

Feb 15, 2012 12:46PM
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I HAVE NEVER OWNED A GUN, MOST LIKELY NEVER WILL. BUT I DO KNOW THAT ANYTIME YOU TRY AND MAKE SOMETHING ILLEGAL, YOU CREATE CRIME. IF PEOPLE WANT GUNS THEY ARE GOING TO GET THEM. IF PEOPLE USE GUNS AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE THEY ARE GUILTY OF A CRIME, NOT THE GUN.

Feb 14, 2012 9:25PM
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I am sure some of you have heard this before but anti gun fanatics feel free to comment. 

 

Anti gun groups somehow find it morally superior for a woman to be raped and strangled to death with her own pantyhose than a woman holding a smoking gun with a dead rapist at her feet.

Feb 14, 2012 7:55PM
Feb 14, 2012 7:53PM
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Starbucks has done nothing wrong, nor have they done anything different to their policies in years. But now they're bad for NOT allowing people to enjoy the freedom that this country is all about!???! Cudos to Starbucks for not giving in to the trouble-makers.

 

Feb 15, 2012 5:15AM
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I have my Concealed Carry Permit and I carry at all times, I respect all businesses with Anti-gun signs by not shopping there. I tell very few people that I carry, or even when I carry since it is none of their business. About a year ago, I walked into a gas station to buy a soda. As I was shopping, a man with a sawed off shotgun ran into the the building, went to the counter, and wanted the money. There was a Woman with two girls under the age of ten standing about 10 feet from me. One of the girls made a noise and he immediately turned and pointed the shotgun at all three of them. I immediately pulled my GLOCK with every intention of killing him. He saw my movement and saw the barrel of my gun pointed strait at his chest, he then turned and ran out of the convenience store. Later, I learned the he was a felon, meaning that he had illegal possession of a firearm, and he was also part of a gang whose initiation was to go to a convenience store steal the money and kill all the witnesses. Anti-gun people love to focus on the statistics of crimes where a firearm was used, and completely ignore the 2 million crimes a year prevented by Legal Carriers just like me.

Feb 14, 2012 7:51PM
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ALL gun laws on the books are unconstitutional. The constitution is the only law of the land on the RIGHT to bear arms !!We have the right to overthrow our government should it become tyrannical....reason the libs fear gun rights.
Feb 14, 2012 8:26PM
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I don't mind if someone brings a legally owned and registed weapon into anyplace I'm at.  It's usually the ILLEGAL or stolen ones you have to worry about.  Remember Luby's?  ONE person could have stopped that massacre.
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